{
  "bookId": "saba-tape-transcripts",
  "part": "1",
  "torah": "13",
  "title": "Tape 8G, Side Bais",
  "hebrewTitle": "קסטה 8G — צד ב",
  "sourceUrl": "/reader/saba-tape-transcripts/1/13",
  "plainUrl": "/reader-plain/saba-tape-transcripts/1/13/",
  "segments": [
    {
      "index": 1,
      "he": "",
      "en": "…Strive to reach him. [Yoy?] Yes."
    },
    {
      "index": 2,
      "he": "",
      "en": "[This song that we just heard — tells in fact about our next subject. This is the story of a wondrous and unusual petek — that was revealed in Teveria seventy years ago — and there is much to say about those who reveal it — the Breslov Chassidim. We are hosting here three people: Aharon Fetz — Sharon Taltsur — and Rebbe Yisroel Dov Odesser. (not understood) Sharon — what is the special story of this petek? How was it revealed? In what circumstances?]"
    },
    {
      "index": 3,
      "he": "",
      "en": "[Sixty-three years ago — to be precise — this petek was found by Rav Odesser. Five days before the petek was found — he had failed in the fast of the Seventeenth of Tammuz. And for five days as a result he fell into depression — because he had been accustomed to fasting from the age of six — Mondays and Thursdays — and the eve of Rosh Chodesh — and this was a public fast — a public fast that everyone must observe — and he had failed in it. So five days he was in depression — until there entered his mind the thought that perhaps the remedy — the remedy would be in his bookcase — which was locked — because Breslov books were then forbidden to be touched by other Chassidim. He entered and opened the case and took a book — opened it — and found the petek inside. And in the petek it is written: \"Me'od hayah kasheh li laredess elecha talmidi hayakar lehagid lecha ki nehenaytis me'od me'avodascha v'alecha amarti mein Feiyerel vet tlien biz Mashiach vet kumen — chazak v'amatz b'avodascha — Na Nach Nachma Nachman MayUman.\" And after this story there is a secret — and it is: \"Melo v'gadish miku l'ku — Pey-Tzadi-Pey-Tzadi-Yud-Hay\" — this is a sign that the petek descended from the heavens and was not found just by chance. \"V'siman yud-zayin b'Tammuz yomru she'ayncha mis'aneh\" — he had not revealed to anyone that he had failed in the fast of the Seventeenth of Tammuz — to no one except the Holy One Blessed Be He. He failed — he did not want to…]"
    },
    {
      "index": 4,
      "he": "",
      "en": "[And how is it written in the petek?] [And this is written in the petek — that this petek descended — \"v'siman yud-zayin b'Tammuz yomru she'ayncha mis'aneh\" — this reveals to us that this petek is an original from Rebbe Nachman — sent from the heavens. \"Me'od hayah kasheh li laredess elecha\" — \"me'od hayah kasheh li laredess elecha\" — this is of course a matter of faith — and this is the whole matter of the people of Yisroel — this is faith — to examine through faith this matter — because this — all the people of Yisroel — this is…] [Rebbe Yisroel — it is written there \"talmidi\" — so you were his student — after all you did not know Rebbe Nachman — this was long before your time?] But like this he speaks in his Torah — in his Torah teaching — that his matter is Rebbe and students. [That is all the Chassidim of Breslov…] All the Chassidim — great and small — there are no great ones and no small ones — we are all friends! [What did you do — what did you do with this petek that you found? What did you do with it? What use? What did you use the petek for?] It was set in the bookcase. [And afterwards? When you took it?] And afterwards it was on it — on it — dangers — great dangers. Before the war of Hitler — they asked me from Poland to send them the — they had heard of it — so they asked me to send it to them. [And you sent it.] And I sent it. This was utter madness — this — one does not send such a thing and… Not — not by post — one does not send by post. But I could not refuse such friends. So I sent it. And they — and they returned it to me. And I received it back by post. [And this petek — does it have some power — some special virtue?] The power of strengthening — that it lifts a person from the ultimate descent to the ultimate ascent. For example — here it is written: \"Me'od hayah kasheh li laredess elecha\" — so Heaven forfend — I need to dig — to dig a grave and bury myself — from the magnitude of the shame. Before the holy Rabbainu — such a thing — if it was hard for him — this is a descent — that… And immediately after such a descent — he — he — he — he revives me. He raises me up: \"Talmidi hayakar.\" [Ah — he elevates.]"
    },
    {
      "index": 5,
      "he": "",
      "en": "Yes. [Now we will ask — with your permission — Rebbe Yisroel — we will ask with your permission — Aharon Fetz. But still — such a petek — aside from the fact that it is perhaps already very old — perhaps this paper is special — what is its value in your eyes — the Breslov Chassidim? Does it have some kind of virtue — medicinal?] [In Torah section Eight — Part Two — in Likutay Moharan — Rebbe Nachman says: that in the future he will renew his world with the song 'pashut — kaful — meshulass — meruba' — and he did not say who the song is. And here he reveals the revelation of the redemption. I am the song — \"Na Nach Nachma Nachman MayUman.\" I am the song. There is an amulet upon me with this name. And we gave this to people — and it made miracles. I am certain and convinced that all the soldiers in the IDF in Lebanon who will say this song — not one of them will be harmed — and so on — all the people of Yisroel — those who are in hospitals — and everyone who has sorrow — even — even if a policeman stopped him on the road — \"Na Nach Nachma Nachman MayUman\" — this nullifies everything. This — this has proven everything.]"
    },
    {
      "index": 6,
      "he": "",
      "en": "[Sharon Taltsur — I am certain with this name. You — were you not {mocking in the streets of} Meah Shearim when you were young?] [Not when I was young — not when I was young.] [No — yes. When you did teshuvah — were you in a kibbutz?] [Yes — I finished the army and…] [Now I am asking you — when you were raised in education — you received all the education you received — humanist — western — modern — are you truly and always convinced — that this petek was truly thrown down from the heavens through Rebbe Nachman?] [Not only am I convinced that this petek descended from the heavens — but I am convinced that this small petek that lies here — will go — will turn the entire world around — to such a degree I am convinced — to such a degree. Why are the people of Yisroel and the whole world in such darkness and such confusion of mind — that the people of Yisroel are searching for a point of light within the darkness? And here we have — a revelation of something that descended from the heavens — and there is no way to return this through any other means. Because we have a tzaddik who explains to us — that he found — and how he found this — and what happened to him — that no one knew that he ate on the Seventeenth of Tammuz during the fast — and only from the heavens they knew. So it seems that this petek — not only is it from the heavens — but it also has a message for the entire people of Yisroel — not only for Breslov Chassidim — or for me — or for him — but this is…] [This is a great waste — in thirty-three years…] [No — no waste — this was preparation — the people of Yisroel went through all the rectifications.] [But why have you not made use of it until now?] [Because the time of revelation is now — according to what Rebbe Yisroel tells us — we… people reached him — and the time has come for it to be revealed in the world. And President Shazar — and Shazar believed in the petek — but he said to him: the time has not yet come. If I reveal the petek — they will remove me from the presidency.] [And now the time has come?] [Yes.] [Now — what are we supposed to do now — particularly now — that we are presenting what Breslov is…] [As a result of the use of this name — people will merit to see miracles. As a result of the miracles — they will run to the books of Rebbe Nachman. The main thing is to engage with the books of Rebbe Nachman — to fulfill his advice.] [I want to understand — that is to say — if — if… you are now presenting before the people of Yisroel the petek — and you believe that now — in the wake of its presentation…] [Yes.] [In the wake of the fact that the people of Yisroel are a people of believers — and that they will accept the petek and accept what is written in it as true and accurate truth — because the people of Yisroel are believers — children of believers.] [And now their entire test is that they will say with simple faith — all the people who are wise in their own eyes — \"Na Nach Nachma Nachman MayUman\" — and not be so clever — but simple — as Rabbainu asks of a Jew to be.] [Thank you greatly — Rebbe Yisroel — thank you — Sharon and Aharon. In that the presentation of this petek touches upon something of the pains and hardships of the people of Yisroel — that shall be our reward. We return…]"
    }
  ]
}