Tape 67, Side A

...[Chayen, with a final nun?] Chayen? [Chayen, with a final nun, it does not matter]… ...{..}... ...{…} Chayen, Chayen with a nun [Yes] With a final nun [Yes] Nu, but the main thing {..} is as it is written {{...}} in the Petek [In the Petek..] In the Petek {it is with} a mem, mem, Chaim, Nachman with a mem, {. .} [In the Petek is it written Ch.., Chayen?] Eh? [Chayen is not written in the Petek] "Na Nach," "Na Nach Nachma Nachman MeUman," it is not written {in the congregation}, it is written in the Petek [Yes, but what he wants to know is whether there is a vav in.. in.. in the word Uman, or if there is no vav—good, it is not..] Ah.. it does not matter [It does not matter, and where, where is Chayen written?] In the Petek, "Na Nach {..} Nachman MeUman" [And what translation?] {Ah.. who.. who ...}, it appears that it, there is with a vav [Ah] "MeUman" with a vav Yes [And where is there a translation? You said in.. in the translation with a final nun—which translation?] {..} It is not, not important [Not important] It can be this way and that way [Yes] It is not.. [Not {called..}] But {the rule is} as it is written in the Petek, "Na Nach Nachma Nachman MeUman" {..} "MeUman," apparently it was with a vav, {..yoa} With, ah.. "melupum," "Uman" [Ah, "melupum"] [Ah, with, with, with the dot in the vav?] Eh? [With the dot inside the vav? Is there a dot inside the vav?] {..} A dot? {..} [..] [Because it is hard to read in the Petek whether there is a dot, or there is not, it..] Ah.. perhaps, perhaps it was without vowel points, {…}.. only letters [Yes] {{..}} [There are letters in "Na Nach Nachma Nachman"] It is not {grammar} [There are letters—in "Na Nach Nachma Nachman" there are letters]

Eh? [In "Na Nach Nachma Nachman" there are letters; "Na Nach Nachma Nachman" has vowel points] There are vowel points [Yes, but in "Me.. MeUman" it is hard to read whether there is a dot inside the vav, or there is no dot inside the vav] {..} [It looks stuck together; I looked yesterday] It does not matter [It does not matter, good] [……] []… ...{...} in the Land it is a mitzvah, dwelling in the Land [Yes..] The mitzvah of dwelling in the Land [Yes] Is to dwell in Eretz Yisroel [Yes] {…} our land, the land of our fathers, and this is the Holy Land, the Beis Hamikdash and Yerushalayim [Yes] {…..}… ...{..will go to..}… ...{from Hashem Yisborach} that He should give us some help, He gave, yes, a fine portion… ...your father was the son of Chaim Baruch [Of Reb Shmuel, the son of Reb Chaim Baruch] Gr.. grandson [Grandson] [Chaim]… ...Neturei Karta [The son?] Eh? [The son?] The son of Chaim Baruch [Reb Shmuel?] Eh? [Reb Shmuel] Shmuel [He was my grandfather] [Did you know him, {he is asking}..] [Yes, I knew, I knew him] You did not know him [I knew him] Yes? [Yes]… ...the hospital and the.. [Closed, closed] Eh? [Closed, it is already, already no longer there, already closed] Yes] What? [..so I looked for the telephone, he wanted to speak with him regarding …. it did not work out to….] [Ah, it came out before..]... ...oy, oy, his houses [Eh?] What did he buy? [His houses were closed? The houses that he bought] You do not know [Closed] [Houses?] [Which houses? Rebbe Yisroel, which houses?] {..} Chaim Baruch [Yes] The hospital for the mentally ill, it, it was his [Yes, now..]

Did he give him the whole area, or rented? [It is rented] Eh? [Rented, it, it now belongs to us and it is rented, it is rented, now it is already no longer there] [There is no, no hospital now] Eh? [The hospital is closed now, but the buildings..] [Are rented] [Are rented, under rental, yes] Who, who, who rented them out? [Who rented them out?] [My grandmother] [The grandmother] Yes? [...]… ...[{Did you know} his grandfather Reb Shmuel, the son of, of Reb Chaim Baruch] The son of..? [Reb Chaim Baruch] Chaim Baruch, yes, certainly [Shmuel] Shmuel, {yes} His hairs was {...}, red [Yes] [Right?] [..] Red [What?] [Yes, red] [Red.. it is a sign] He traveled every Rosh HaShanah to Meron [Yes] Do you know of this? [He is speaking about, about Shmuel?] [What?] [About whom is he..?] [Reb Shmuel] [Ah, yes..] [Chaim Baruch was in Meron for a long time] Eh? [Reb Chaim Baruch was in Meron for a long time] Yes… .[{]Is there…?} ...{What is your name?} [What?] [What is your name?] What are you called? [Yair, Yair] [Yair, Yair] Yair… ...{...} he traveled with the grandfather, {yes} [Afterward my grandfather traveled] Shmuel [My father also used to travel with Grandfather to Meron, afterward] [He says that his father also used to travel to Meron] {..} [In the first years] [At the beginning for Rosh HaShanah]… ...Yerushalayim to the Arabs? [Yes, the Arabs think so] Eh? [The Arabs think so, the Arabs] The Arabs [Think so, think] Returning? [Think, think] Eh? [They want it] Nu, and we..? [We are the people of Yisroel, Saba, r..]

We..? [They do not want to give them Yerushalayim] Eh? [They do not..]… ...[{Yerushalayim}, the State of Yisroel does not want to give them Yerushalayim] They are not in Eretz Yisroel and not in Yerushalayim, nu, shoyn, nu And all, all {..}, all the.. Jews agree to this? [No, no, they held a demonstration, they held a demonstration in Yerushalayim on..] Yes? [On Motzaei Shabbos, they held a large demonstration] Nu [And..] But Weizman did, he does what he wants [Saba] Eh? [Do you remember, Saba, that Rebbe Yisroel (Kardonner) came to you in a dream and he said to you: "The time of the Redemption is very near" Saba, Rabbainu is the Master of the world, Rabbainu] Ah, you? [Shimon, Rebbe Yisroel] [Yes][Yes]Shimon, and they are three [Yes] [Yes] [They are three from Kfar Saba, they came to visit from Kfar S..]… ...and the State, what do they say about this? [Half of the people, half of the people want, want to give to the Arabs, and half..] Yes [And half of the people are against] Yes? [Yes]… ...[Concerning Yerushalayim they do not agree] No [They do not agree]… ...[Blows, all the goyim] Yes? [Yes, the goyim outside the Land have all kinds of troubles, and they fight with one another] Eh? [They have quarrels, wars among themselves, all kinds of blows] Yes? [Yes, Rabbainu.., the Holy One, blessed is He, repays them well] [Tell him, such illnesses for which they have no medicines] [Yes] […...…] [……...] [Illnesses, they have illnesses, all kinds of..] Yes? [Yes] [For which they have no medicines..] [They, they have illnesses, for which they have no medicine The goyim have great troubles, they have no vitality, they have no vitality] They have no.. [Vitality, vitality] Vitality [Yes, all the vitality is among the people of Yisroel, with our holy Rabbainu

Saba, I read the stories of Rabbi Shmuel Horowitz So he tells how you had troubles from the goyim, from the Turks, you had troubles from the Turks Do you remember that you had troubles from the Turks?] {From whom?} [From the Turks] [The Turks] The Turks [Yes, that they would cause you great troubles, in the end Rabbainu conquered Eretz Yisroel] Eh? [In the end Rabbainu conquered Eretz Yisroel] Eretz Yisroel is ours [Yes, there were, there were great miracles] And there will be [Yes] Even greater ones, {yes} [Which miracles?] [That is what..] [Is written in the holy "Zohar"] What does the.. Weizman say? [No, I do not know, I do not know] […..] […..] Saba, it is written in the holy "Zohar," that the miracles that will be at the coming of Mashiach will be greater tha.., than the Exodus from Egypt] Yes, yes, certainly [The "Na Nach" is now becoming known, Saba, the "Na Nach" The "Na Nach Nachma Nachman MeUman" is becoming known in the world] Yes [Rabbainu is becoming known more and more, amulets, signs, people love Rabbainu, they know, they have amulets] Who is this? [Gadi, Gadi] Kfar Saba [Yes, throughout the Land, throughout the Land] Nu [Throughout the Land people want amulets] Throughout the Land? [Yes, ah..] Nu [People want amulets, amulets of Rabbainu, of "Na Nach"] Yes? [Yes, yes] [Now it is Kiryat Arba] [Yes, now there is someone, s.., there is someone wh.. who wants amulets in Kiryat Arba In Kiryat Arba in Chevron, he wants to spread Rabbainu's name there, with amulets] [People ask] [People ask for amulets] Yes [Yes.. people see the falsehood slowly, slowly, people see the falsehood, people see the falsehood and Rabbainu makes new baalei teshuvah, sweet new baalei teshuvah]

[…] Oy vey, the.. the legs on the bed, oy, oy vey, oy vey, vey… ...what is the news? That the Arabs are receiving blows? [There is, there is news] Eh? [There is news] Yes? [On the radio, and that] Yes? [Yes, that from all over the world people, people in Africa have wars with one another] {Yes} [They fight with one another, all kinds of wars, they have illnesses and that Saba, it is good for us, blessed is Hashem, the people of Yisroel, Rabbainu protects us Rabbainu revives us, Rabbainu's books, Saba, Rabbainu's books are sweet, sweet] […...] […...] [The "Likutey Etzos," "Hishtapchus HaNefesh," "Meshivas Nefesh," it is sweet, sweet, sweeter than honey The "Likutey Moharan," the "Likutey Halachos," the "Likutey Tefillos," Saba] {..} ["Avi HaNachal"] [Are there books of Saba here?] [Saba, also "Avi HaNachal," "Avi HaNachal"] [Are there books of Saba here?] [For sale …. for sale] [Eh?] [For sale] [Yes?] [….] [The "Sippurei Maasiyos"]… ...[Slowly, slowly, Rabbainu does not go quickly, slowly, slowly, each time he steals another one He steals another one and another one, and another one]… ...[..they are coming to Uman, people want to come to Uman for Rosh HaShanah] Yes [Yes, more than last year, people are coming, now registering, registering for Rabbainu's Rosh HaShanah, they want to come for Rabbainu's Rosh HaShanah] In Uman [In Uman, yes, many people are registering, Rabbainu said that every Jew who is added to the holy gathering It is many, many buildings there are in Heaven It will be a great joy, Saba, on Rosh HaShanah with Rabbainu there will be a great joy]… ...[They know that we have a weapon] They know..

[Bring it to him, bring it to him, I..] [That we have weapons] [Why? It is the same thing] [They are afraid, but Rabbainu has a special weapon, "the earthquake”] Yes [Sometimes, sometimes they have earthquakes]… ...[A dream, the dream you had with the waves, the dream with the waves in the sea] {{...}} [That there were waves like mountains, there were, there were waves like mountains] There were? [Waves] Waves [Like mountains, do you remember, Saba, the dream?]… ...[In the dream you saw Rabbainu, do you remember? Saba, in the dream in which you saw Rabbainu] Nu [In the dream of the waves] Yoa [That you walked inside the building, inside the beautiful palace And you opened the door and saw Rabbainu in the form of an old man And he shook your hand] Eh? [He took your hand and shook it, Rabbainu, with love] I told you? [Yes, yes] [Yes?] [No, I heard on..] [A tape] [Tell him….] [Eh?] [Ask an exact question…..] [……..….] [……] [I heard, there are tapes of you speaking] Eh? [There are tapes] There are? [Tapes, tapes] [Cassettes] [Cassettes, cassettes] Cassettes [Yes, there are many talks of Rabbainu] [Tell him……] [There are many stories] Is Weizman in Eretz Yisroel? [I, I do not know, Saba] {Ah} […….] […….] {…} […….] […] […. I did not put on "Rabbeinu Tam,” do you have the ”Rabbeinu Tam,” right? Wait, I, I will ask Saba, he also has, right? Saba..] [……..]... ...[There are many stories on the tapes, many, many stories Of you with Rebbe Yisroel (Kardonner), and all sorts of beautiful stories] Yes [The story of Reb Tzvi Rosenthal] Yes [Yes, yes..

The story of Reb Tzvi, Reb Tzvi Rosenthal with the three wise men, the three wise men, do you remember? The three wise men, the three rich wise men who were in Teveria, the Zionists] {..} [Rebbe.., Yisroel Zulmins] {{………}} remember [And Leibel, Leibel] The mukhtar of Teveria, Mordechai, he—on Sunday they came to the synagogue to pray Minchah and said that Rebbe Yisroel punished the, the, the mukhtar, they took him, to this day.. [Did not return] He is gone, they do not, do not know where {he is} [Yes, and this.. Reb Kehat said this, Reb Kehat] Reb Kehat [Yes] {This is the vitality, this, ...} He came to the synagogue, he told me that Rebbe Yisroel, he punished M.., Mordechai [Yes] Soldiers came and seized him, and he disappeared completely and they do not, do not know where he is [Yes, they said he was a spy, they said he was a spy] That he was..? [A spy, a spy, a spy] A spy, yoa, a traitor, yes, {this} [And they also said about you, they took you to prison, they took you to prison] Yes [If you want ……] [……..] [……..] [I do not know, I do not know ….. I am afraid..] [……] [Na Nach Nachma Nachman MeUman, Saba, may I put on your "Rabbeinu Tam"?] Eh? [May I put on the "Rabbeinu Tam," your "Rabbeinu Tam" tefillin?] Why? You do not have any? [No, I do not have any, I, I need to buy] Ah.. and every single day what do you do? [I put on.. Gadi's "Rabbeinu Tam"] [He.., he puts on my tefillin] Nu, so now? [Now.., today I did not put them on] What? ["Rabbeinu Tam" I did not put on today] Good, take them [Thank you, Saba] But put them on right away

[Yes, yes] […………] […………] [Tell him ….. whether I can use Sephardi, I do not know] [Saba] [Sephardi, tell him..] [Tefillin..] What time is it? [Ah, one thirty] [One twenty-five] [..about Sephardi, I want..] [One twenty-five] […….] [Saba, he wants to buy tefillin, so he does not know if it is good If it is good to buy Ashkenazi or Sephardi tefillin?] I do not know, {..} He is Sephardi, let him buy Sephardi [……..] [……..] {…….} [Saba, the story of, of Reb Tzvi Rosenthal, everyone asked: "What happened? Where is Reb Tzvi? He went to pray on Friday and did not return..”.. ["Friday, Erev Shabbos, he went to pray and did not return" He said: "I cannot, I cannot remain here, I want to go to Yerushalayim, I have..” He said: "I have strong legs, I want to go to Yerushalayim" So they took you to prison, they took you to prison and asked you: "Where is Reb Tzvi?" And.. and your wife and your mother saw you through the windows] Yes [And there was crying, there was much crying] I was already ready, {..} to give me blows [Yes] On the legs [Yes] I {know\then it was}, lay like this with the hands.., with the legs up, he will give blows A soldier was standing here and a soldier here [He tied his legs up] [Yes?] [……..] And the legs up [They said to you: "Tell us where Reb Tzvi is?" So what did you say to them?] {..} [They said to you: "Tell the truth” So you said to them: "I think he went to Yerushalayim"] They sent, they found him {in Afula} [Afula] They brought him to Teveria, and made {..} papers at the rabbi's, that he is forbidden to stand in..

[Four cubits] {Four}.., of mine, and not to speak with me at all, {..}, neither with me nor with Rebbe Yisroel And he signed it [Afterward he passed away] Yes [You dreamed a dream, dreamed a dream that you went to the mikvah, and you saw him in the mikvah] {That is how it was} [So.. and.. what did you say..?] I said to him: "{Rebbe Yisroel}, what are you doing? They will kill us" He said to me: "That I decided {..} that they should kill me, {what will be w..}, let them do what they want, I will accept everything" [In the end you awoke from sleep, and in the end there was no, no mikvah in the dream, there was no mikvah And the three wise men came to Rebbe Yisroel, Rebbe Yisroel (Kardonner), they asked him: "They have wives and children, and the Breslovers also have wives and children" Do you remember? Saba, they asked him: "What is the difference? They have wives and children, and the Breslovers have wives and children, what is the difference?" So what did Rebbe Yisroel (Kardonner) say to them? He said to them: "These have wives and children for the sake of desire And these have wives and children in order to fulfill the Torah" For it is written in the Torah that one must bring children, do you remember this? Saba And the three wise men went to pray as a joke, do you remember? Saba They went to pray with the shtreimel, as a sort of joke But when they, when they heard Rebbe Yisroel (Kardonner) in prayer, then they truly awakened to Judaism, do you remember? Saba.. There were, there were true men of Rabbainu then, there were many true men of Rabbainu then, in Yerushalayim There were true tzaddikim, they sang: "To make known, to make known, to make known..", do you remember? Saba They sang on Purim: "To make known, to make known, to make known.." Saba, do you.., do you remember the dream in which you fell into a deep pit in Yerushalayim, you.., do you remember? That you fell into a deep, deep pit, in the end there was water inside the pit, do you remember the dream? Saba] {. .}

[Your wife and.. and many people went to throw stones at the house of Rebbe Yisroel (Kardonner) “Where is Rav Tzvi?” They threw, broke all the utensils, they paid no heed to Shabbos And after that they went to sleep, and got up again to throw stones at the house of Rebbe Yisroel (Kardonner)] {…..house}, Rav Tzvi, Rav Tzvi Rosenthal [“Where is Rav Tzvi?” They said: “It is the Breslovers,” they said: it..” everyone said: “It is the Breslovers, how is it possible to do such a thing?” They said: “Apparently, they sent him to Uman”] {{….}}… ...[…..] I said to him: {...} “Rav Tzvi, you have no money with which to travel” He said to me: “Money? I, I have strong legs, I am going on foot to Yerushalayim” [He said: “I have strong legs, I am going on foot, on foot” Saba, he went, and he did not return] Yes [To this day] He has, he has sons [His sons? Saba, how Rabbainu, Rabbainu said: “When a person will be with his legs at the door, he will be very sorry that he did not listen to the holy Rabbainu” We need, Saba, we need fear of punishment, we need fear of punishment, Rabbainu said that this.. That the beginning of the avodah, the service of Hashem, is through fear of punishment Saba, bless us, Saba, bless us, that we merit to truly have Rabbainu’s fear of punishment We need much, much yiras Shamayim, Saba, Saba, pray for us that we truly have yiras Shamayim, that we merit to return in complete teshuvah in truth, speedily] Ho, ho.. ho.. [Saba, he went to pray, everyone said: “Where is Rav Tzvi?.. How does one do such a thing?” He said, they told him {about this}, everyone said: “How does one do such a thing?”]

“Perhaps they even sent him to Uman?” [Perhaps, they thought, perhaps he went to Tzfas, they thought] Yes [So they sent one of the strongmen of Teveria] Yes [He went b.. with a horse, with a horse, and he, like an airplane] No, he was not in Tzfas [He was not in Tzfas] [Where did he go ……] [………] [Yes?] [Yes, he was in Afula, on the way] [And he did not return?] [He returned] [………] [No, afterward he died] [….Yerushalayim?] [He arrived {in Teveria} and died, he swore that he.., that he would not draw near to Breslov Chassidus He.., just, as if, not in this.., and then he died.. Now, Saba, now, now Rabbainu is with Rav Tzvi, right? Rav Tzvi Rosenthal is Rabbainu’s, now Rav Tzvi Rosenthal, he, he merited to draw close to Rabbainu, right? He studied “Reishis Chochmah”] Every month [Yes, standing, standing for several hours every day] He was a colleague-disciple of the “Chofetz Chaim” [“Colleague-disciple”] Yes [“Colleague-disciple” of the Chofetz Chaim, not “disciple,” “colleague-disciple” And he taught you, do you remember? Saba, when you were.., wh.. when you were small children, then he taught you, he studied with you “Reishis Chochmah,” “Reishis Chochmah” he studied with you] [……..] [After, after that he drew close to Rabbainu.. Also Rav Motl of Slonim, he also drew you very close, when you were small children He taught you, Rav Motl of Slonim And then when you received the note, then Rav Motl of Slonim laughed, do you remember? Saba.. He laughed and he said, his belly almost came out from how much he laughed] He will die, he was afraid he would die, he could not bear it, {he, and he}, he laughed so much

[In the end he nullified the opposition to Rabbainu, he nullified the opposition, Rav Motl of Slonim] Yo [He said: “I am not an opponent, do what you do, I am not an opponent”] Ah.. […..…] [……..] Are the non-Jews receiving blows? [Every day they have new blows] Ah? Every day [They have new blows, new blows] Blows, yes [Yes, every day they have new blows, I hear: once here blows, once here, once here Once in Africa, once in America they have storms, {...}] [Rabbainu is dealing with them] [Rabbainu is dealing with them, Saba, they have fires, and this Rabbainu makes news every day, makes news] {..}, ah.. [The.. Torah of Rabbainu, the Torah of Rabbainu is “a Torah of kindness” He says, “Many daughters have done valiantly, but you have surpassed them all,” this is the holy Rabbainu] [……..] [……..] [Shalom, Rebbe Yisroel]…