Tape 75, Side A

...{...} I gave charity to Yosef Noach [Who, who is this, who was this Yosef Noach? Saba] A poor man, a poor person [A poor man] {..} An old man, he, they were a couple [Yes, yes] A man and a woman [Yes] {…}, ah, yes [They did not have anything to eat] {..} He was poor, they were po.., poo.., poor, wh.. who begged like a Bettler, they begged [Give me, give me] Give me something, give a piece of bread, give this, give this The Bettler Our holy Rabbainu told a story of Bettlers Bettlers {..} I knew that this was, ah, th.. the very poor people, they go and beg, ah.. And beg for some gift, a piece of bread, {..}, yes So I knew this was a Bettler, {the meaning}, I knew that this was a Bettler And our holy Rabbainu {{….}}, he told the story of the "Seven Bettlers," {..} [Ah..] I {..} did not, did not remember one Bettler, and he tells me {..} the story of the "Seven Bettlers" I remember, your mother came, came to me at the 'cheder' and gave me a piece of bread to eat Bread, bread with oil, and she gave me three drops, I asked: "Mother, give me one more drop" Then she shouted at me {in distress\to the side}: "What do you think? I need the oil for Shabbos”, it was Thursday {..} "And I need the oil for Shabbos, and you want another drop?" [Now there is a lot, Saba, a lot of oil] Eh? [There is bread and olive oil, now there is everything Olive oil and bread, and cakes and fruit, and sweet arak and cola, there is everything] I forgot th.. everything, that there is cola and olive oil and bread, I forgot everything [Yes] I did not have a memory, so I forgot everything [And what happened afterward? What happened after this? Saba]

I was always in suffering and great fear, {.. how much} Perhaps the rebbe would ask which Torah portion? Nu, what, what, what, what, what will happen? I will get, I will get shouting and blows I remember that your mother came, you do not remember this? [Who came? Who?] {…}, your mother [My mother?] {Yes}, yes, yes [Where to?] {..} To the school where I learned aleph-beis [So who was I? Saba, so maybe tell me who? Who is this, me? Who was I.., was I also in Teveria? Saba] Ah? [Was I also in Teveria?] {What, you too?} [I, was I also there? Was I also?] Ah, yes, yes [Who was I?] Yes, {..}.. [Who was I?] Yes, I said to her: "He will be a g.. good boy, he remembers which Torah portion it is this week" [I remembered?] You remembered [Yes] Only I forgot [And what was my name? Saba] Ah? [What was my name?] Your name, I know only the father's name, Yosef Noach [Was I his son?] Yes [Was I his son?] Yes [Yosef Noach] Yosef Noach [……] [Yes, yes, the beggar, he was.., a beggar] I said to your mother: You are a good boy, you remember that this week is the Torah portion of "Noach", I said to her: "Oh, your boy is, he is a {..} good student, he remembers that this week is the Torah portion of "Noach"" I am telling you what happened seventy years ago […...] […...] [Saba.. what was it, you, you, you do not remember what my name was?] Ah? [What was my name?] Your name? [What was it?] No [Was I a good boy?] {...} [Was I a good boy?] Ah? [Was I a good boy?]

Yes [Yes] Yes, yes, you had a good {..} mind [Yes?] And I was the opposite [Yes?] I did not have a mind at all, I was born without a mind [Yes] Because if I had been born with {..}, with, with a mind, {..}, no, I would not have had, ah.. {..} I would have been {{...}} [Arrogance, arrogance and fame, Saba, was I also famous?] Ah? [Did I have fame? Was I famous?] Yes, you were among the good students [Yes?] And I was the worst student [The worst] {..} So that I would not have.. [Arrogance and fame] Arrogance, {} and honor [Yosef Noach] You do not remember? [No] There, the synagogue {of ...}} the disciples of the Baal Shem Tov, yes [Yes?] {Yes} [Of..] {..} [Of Vitebsk?] Outside [Vitebsk] {..} [Menachem Mendel of Vitebsk] Ah? [A disciple of, ah, of Kalisk] What is your name? [Now?] Yoa [Yisroel Dagan] Yes? [Yes] Was, was your father's name Yisroel? [My father?] Yoa [His name was Peretz, Peretz] Ah? [Peretz] […] [My father?] Yoa [They called him Peretz, Peretz, Peretz] Perl? [Yes] [And where is he} [And my mother was Bat Sheva] Bat Sheva [Yes, Peretz, Peretz, Peretz] {Perl?} [Peretz, P’ R’..] Peretz [Yes, P' R' Tz'] Ah [P’ R’..] Peretz? [Peretz, yes] {..} [{My name?}, Saba.., in Teveria was I also called Yisroel?] Ah? [Was my name Yisroel there?] I do not know [Do not know, but was I with you in.. good relations?] I was {..} my name was Yisroel [Yours] Yes [Was I on good terms with you? In Teveria?] {….} [Yes? I did not make problems for you?]

{Not in childhood}, we were children [Children] And I did not know which Torah portion it was that week, {if} it was the Torah portion of "Noach," and.. a.. and you {..} [I knew] And. And you knew that this week was the Torah portion of "Noach," and you were a {..} good student [Yes] You remember that this week was the Torah portion of "Noach" I was forgetful [Forgetful] Right away I forgot, the rebbe asks me: "Yisroel Ber, {..}, which Torah portion is it this week?" So, so there was no one {who would answer}, I did not know [What, what, what was I? A Karlin Chassid? What was I? Ah? [Karlin? Was I Karlin?] I {..}.. [What was I? Karlin?] {...} No, no, you prayed in Karlin [Yes?] With me [Yes] Yes But the Karliners shout during prayer [Yes] Do you know about this? [Yes, certainly.. I also.., did I also shout? {..} [Did I also shout? Saba] Ah? [Did I also shout?] Ah? [Would I shout too? Did I also shout during prayer?] Ah, no, only I shouted [You shouted] I loved to shout to Hashem [Yes] During prayer and.. {..} I remember the bed {that I lay in with my mother at the time I was born}, I remember, yes Now I remember, but {right away} I forgot {..} everything [Yes? When you were nursing?] {..} [Were you nursing?] {..} [Do you remember?] {…} [Yes?] Ah, yes, yes [And what was before that?..] I wanted to eat, and my mother did not, did not have enough milk [Yes?] Because she did not eat and did not {drink} [Nu] I suffered, {..}, how did I have milk to eat? Ah.. [……] [Yes] […..] [Yes, yes, I know.. Saba, I once had a thought, I had a thought some time ago that I had already once been a lamdan, that I had once been a lamdan]

{Yes?} [I had a thought, and that now I need to learn to be simple] {Yes} [I was in a yeshiva in Yerushalayim, when I began to return in teshuvah Twelve years ago, I was in a yeshiva of Misnagdim, of Lithuanians And they studied Gemara there with Rashi and Tosafos, and Rishonim and Acharonim And I had never studied Gemara in this incarnation, but I immediately understood everything And I received the best grade in the entire yeshiva] {..} [Yes, the best in the entire yeshiva, but I.., they gave me honor, and I fled from there They wanted to make me into a lamdan and a gaon, and I fled, I, I felt that someone was speaking to me in my mind "You now need to be simple, not wise, simple”] {..} [Yes, so I went from there, I had the highest grade, there were people who study Gemara for several years, studying Gemara in a kollel, and I was completely new, I was only completely new to Yiddishkeit and I knew the Gemara better than everyone, but I felt that I was forbidden to remain there, that I needed to search for simplicity, that if I remain in.., in sophistries, {it} is not worth anything] {..} [……………..] [I am only now, only now with Rabbainu; I was a lamdan, but I did not have Rabbainu] Ah? [I did not have Rabbainu] {..} [….….] [……..] [Saba, I, I a year ago, a year or two ago, I was in Teveria in a Karlin synagogue, I studied there for several months, ...] {….} [Yes] {I remember that I shouted during prayer} Yes?] {More than everyone, everyone shouted, I shouted more} [Yes.. Saba, and when you drew close to Rabbainu you were seventeen years old, correct?]

{…….} [..At the age of seventeen? Seventeen, right? How old were you? When Rebbe Yisroel (Kardonner) arrived, how old were you?] {……..} […..….] {He came from Chevron and found Yisroel Ber in Teveria} [Saba, when you became close to Rabbainu, was I opposed to you then?] Huh? [Was I opposed? …..] {…………………...…..} […………………….…..] [Thank God, I wasn't opposed] {..} [………………………………...…………..] {…………………………(They are speaking about the Wise Man and the Simpleton)………….}… ...Breslov [Yes, my mother] Yes [Did I want to?] Huh? [Did I want to?] I, you, {…..…} [Yes] Breslov [Yes?] And the mother "{……. What Breslov?…..}... ...[The friends sing and play the song: "Who will give me a wing like a dove.." Afterward they play and sing the song: "In you, Rabbainu, we will rejoice, in you, Rabbainu, we will be glad, in you, Rabbainu, we will rejoice and be glad in you.." Afterward they play the song: "Our holy Shabbat.." Afterward they play the song: "Na Naḥ Naḥma Naḥman of Uman.."] […….…..] [………...] {…..} Another one, a singer [He is a singer?] Who is it? Who? Where is he? [Which singer? Saba] {..} You told me you have another one [Who plays together with me?] Yes [Yes] Who is it? [I have, I have several, several musicians] Yes? [Yes, who play with me, an orchestra] Yes? [Yes, yes] [Sometimes I take this one, sometimes I take this one] Ah [Yes, there is s.. there is tahini, Saba, tahini, there is tahini here] Tahini [Tahini with olive oil] […………] [……..….] Where are we? [We are in Tzfas, Saba] On Rosh Hashanah? [In Uman] In Uman

[Certainly, Rebbe Nassan said: "Every single year, all the days of our lives," Rebbe Nassan said, in "Chayei Moharan" it is written that all the days of our lives we travel to Uman for Rosh Hashanah] Yo, {. .} [He said that this is the practice; after Rabbainu's passing, we always travel to Uman for Rosh Hashanah] {..} [This is puree, this is puree] Puree? [Yes, but it is cold] Huh? [But it is cold, and there is also.. there is Bamba] [….] [No] [And there is, ah.. sweet mezonos, sweet mezonos, and there are, ah.. dates, raisins] Good, {…..} is there this, ah, like date honey? [Ah, yes, yes] {There is more merchandise} [Yes, yes, yes, there is, date spread, ah, ah, date spread] Ah.. [Yes, it is very good, it is very good] Fine, fine [More?] No [Enough] No more {puree} [A little cola? Saba, cola? There is cola too, a little?] (Drumming) [Saba, I went to a carpenter, to a carpenter, and I bought plywood.., a piece.., bou.., new wood] Huh? [I repaired the bed] Yes? [Now it is completely fine] {You repaired it} [I repaired it myself, myself] Huh? [I myself repaired it] Ah [Yes, I..] [Oh, mazal tov] [I bought the wood, bought the wood..] {...} of the bed? [I bought wood] Wood [Special wood for the bed, and I repaired it myself] [..What came out for you there?] [And now inside the..] …[..…] ...{..}... ...th..{...} the guest, ah.. shall not lie on the bed until the host lies down and sees whether it is good [Yes, today I am going, today I am going to lie on the bed, today, and I will check that it is good] Good [Yes, I put in new] But {what, what about tomorrow?}

[Ah, until.. huh? Until tomorrow, until th.. yes] {Living today}… ...{...} the television [What?] The television will tell you [There is no television, television ha'ois (outside)] Ha'ois… ...[The friends sing: "Fortunate are we that we have such a {Rebbe\note}.." Saba rouses the friends)]… ...I have no strength to laugh, give me liver, don't you have any? [Liver] So that I will have {{..strength}} to shout [To shout, to laugh] [I, so that I will have strength] [Is there liver here?] You don't have liver? [Liver?] [At the store, no?] [At the store, there is some at the store, Saba, at the store] Is there some at the store? [There is some at the store] Ah, clo.., now everything is already closed.. [No, no, no, it isn't closed] They are all{{..}} closed [No, not closed?] [Downstairs it isn't closed]… ...(Saba and Uri from Meron shout ah, ah, ah, ah) […...….] [……]… ...Ah.. [Uri from Meron sings: "From Moshe to Rabbainu there was no one like Rabbainu, we travel to Rabbainu Nachman, we travel to Uman.. Na Naḥ Naḥma Naḥman of Uman, he rectifies the world..” (Saba directs)] [Saba, the television] Huh? [The television] Nu [They want, they call again and again] [They do not give up] Yes? [They do not give up.. and they want] […..] [They promised that they would come for a little while, they accept everything we tell them and they want us to tell them what "Na Naḥ" is, and that we.. and that we will sing, sing, and they will not take much of our time, they want to do..] Ah, we will sing as well [Yes, they, they want, they..] [Dagan, Dagan] [They..] But all {...}, all of Tel Aviv want to sleep, what is hisbodedus? What do we do?

[They want "Na Naḥ," they want to know what it is, so that everyone will know what "Na Naḥ" is throughout the country, th..] Ah.. [That we should tell them; what will we do? Saba, what will we do? We'll tell them, no? Maybe, maybe someone will be awakened to repentance by this? Some person who is seeking the truth, he will watch] Ah.. ah.. ah.. ah.. [Ah.. ah.. ah.. ah..] [And he will receive.. what, what will we tell them? Saba, they want an answer] Let them wait [Let them wait?] Yes [They want to come tomorrow] [Let them say "Na Naḥ Naḥma Naḥman of Uman"] [They want to come, they want to come tomorrow..] Ah.. ah. .ah.. ah.. [Ah.. ah.. ah.. ah..] [Then tell them…..] [What should I say? That they should not come tomorrow? Tell them not to come?] No , no [Not to come, good] […….] [Good, not to come, tell them not to come] [Maybe someone watches this more….] [Maybe someone, someone is looking for {Messiah}, looking..] [Ah.. I want..] [The truth, and he will be awakened to repentance] {..} [Through this?] [..I saw a person] [What?] [Maybe?] [One, the one with the note?] [Saba] [Yes] [Once I saw in Meron] Huh? [I saw a Jew in Meron, he saw you on television six years ago] [Nine] [Nine years ago] Yo [He saw "Na Naḥ" on television] "Na Naḥ"? [Yes, and he wrote it down..] Nu [He wrote it on paper, he did not know, so as not to forget, he wrote it on a piece of paper and he kept it in his pocket, the..] Yes [The paper on which "Na Naḥ" is written] {..} [He kept it, how many, nine years] {..} [Every time, every time he wrote a new paper, he saw it on television]

Yes [Yes, and he kept it in his pocket] [We were on television together, Saba] {..} [You, you do not remember, that you and I were on television, nine years ago?] Yes? [We were together, yes, and one man saw the program, and he heard "Na Naḥ Naḥma Naḥman of Uman"] Yo [So he took a paper, and wrote on the paper "Na Naḥ Naḥma Naḥman of Uman," so that he would not forget and he put it in his pocket, and every time the paper gets a little spoiled, he takes a new paper, and writes it again, nine years like this, nine years he, he puts a new paper in his pocket every time] Yes [From the television, he saw us on television] Yes? [Yes, yes.. Uri met him in.. at Rebbe Shimon bar Yochai in Meron] [He told me] [He told Uri, he saw Uri in Meron so he told him this story, this tale] [Tell them to ask him……..] [So what, what will we do? Saba, shall we tell them not to come tomorrow?] Ah.. no [Not to come] {..} [Maybe it is good?] It could be that the police will come [No, why?] {{…...}} [What?] [What did he say?]... ...the police will come [Yes] And they will say to all of Tel Aviv, "Get up" [Say "Na Naḥ" quickly] Enough sleeping [The police will say, that everyone needs to say "Na Naḥ"] [……] [Enough sleeping] [And a policeman will stand, and he will tell everyone to say "Na Naḥ"] Yes, yes [So what, what will we do? Shall we tell them.., what, what should we tell them? Saba they very much want to come, they will co.., they promised, that they will come only for a little while and they will not disturb, they will not disturb..]

Ah.. ah. .ah.. ah.. […………..] […………..] [ What, what should I tell them? Saba] Let them wait [Let them wait longer] One year [One year?] Yes [One year, good, I am going home, Saba] Goodbye [Good night] Good night [All the best] [………………..] [………………..] [..And bring me the number, yesterday there was one…….] (Saba and Uri from Meron shout and laugh ah.. ah.. ah.. ah..) {…} [...Yes, he is here…….] [They said…] [Huh? They are coming.. Uri, Uri] [What?] [……..] [Uri?] [What?] [Ah.. they are here] Ah, I have no strength {…} [………...] [Saba, they publicized..] I have no strength [They publicized me in the newspaper, pra.., pray for me, they made publicity for me throughout Haifa] [Why?] [They made an unflattering picture of me in the newspaper, they wrote a lie about me] Yes? [They made me, they made me a "famous man of falsehood"] Huh? [They made me a "famous man of falsehood”] [He goes, buys himself {…..} a second] [Pray for me, that it should not harm me, that I do not..] [……..] [….….] [That not, that we should not see journalists and no, and no anger] [..Bigger journalists ] Ah, ah, I cannot, I must rest [Rest, rest, rest, it is best to rest]… ...{..} [I…..]... ...[The friends sing: "Strength and dignity are her clothing, and she will laugh at the last day.." (Saba and the friends shout: ah.. ah.. ah.. ah..)]… ...[(Saba and Uri from Meron shout and laugh: ah.. ah.. ah.. ah..)] [……….] [….……] [They brought police….. in Tel Aviv] [Ah.. yes?] [Why? Why did they bring to them?] [Everyone will say……..]… ...[…….] [Yes]... ...already to sleep, nu, {….}, the world {were\today} continues to sleep, to eat and to sleep, what is this?

[What is this?] [Saba]… [...…]... {Where will we sle..}, I do not have a bed for you, go home [All right]… ...(Saba and Uri from Meron shout and laugh: ah.. ah.. ah.. ah..) [Good night, Saba]… ...[Shalom] Shalom, shalom, go, go to sleep [Tell him…….]… ...[In the end, Saba, everyone will even want to buy the Petek, and they will not succeed] Huh? [In the end the whole world will want to buy the Petek, and they will not succeed they will beg to say "Na Naḥ Naḥma Naḥman of Uman" everyone will want to say "Na Naḥ Naḥma Naḥman of Uman"]… ...{…}... ...Hospitality is in Kabbalah f.. in all, for all of Rabbainu's people that not {...}, the guest should not sleep, until the host lies down and sees whether it is good… ...[So I already..]… ...[That she cannot, all day she only thinks about Rabbainu and about the..] Yes [It entered into her mind] Ah, yes? [{..}, and the reporter, the reporter] Huh? [Th.. the reporter, the one who is making the report on television] Yo [That is different, she is now reading Rabbainu's books, she is reading Rabbainu's books, she has Rabbainu's books] Yes? [Yes, and she reads the books, and she, she wants to come, she said, that she will come in any case Yes [Here, come what may, with self-sacrifice she said, I will come, she wants a blessing for herself, for her son the television reporter, she said: "I want to come to receive a blessing" and she wants to come here to receive a blessing, come what may yes, self-sacrifice, they decided that they will come, come what may and she has Rabbainu's books, and she reads them, that is how she spoke with my wife last night]

Yes [Yes, and th.. she is interested, what is Rabbainu, and what is this, and.. and she asked my wife all kinds of questions] Yes [Yes, my wife told her, until not.. th.. my wife said, that we do not consent to television until they seek the..] {Yes} [The genuine truth, and.. and nullify themselves, before the tzaddikim, and that they should come and seek the genuine truth, then she told my wife, that she, she is searching and my wife told her, and you need to pray to Hashem, you need to pray about this, th.. th.. th.. and to seek the truth, my wife told her so she said, good, good, I want a blessing, she has Rabbainu's books, and she wants a blessing, yes and she said, that she will come, come what may, yes.. yes]… ...[Saba, the friends sing: "Fortunate are we, how good is our portion and how pleasant is our lot and how beautiful is our inheritance, fortunate are we"] [Do you have this?] [Huh?] [The small one] And how beautiful is our inheritance.. [..Which small one?] [……] [No, I have a guitar, I have] [No, ………] [No, no, I have two, I have one, one with nylon..]… ...{With the Arabs? Nothing?} [Not today, no, today it was quiet] Huh? [I heard the news] Yo [In the meantime it was quiet just now] Yes? [It was quiet just now] {..}… ...[Yisroel Dagan plays and sings: "..Na Naḥ Naḥma Naḥman of Uman" "Rabbainu Rebbe Nachman sent him, to illuminate our souls in distress and in order to hasten our redemption we will sing "Na Naḥ Naḥma Naḥman of Uman" we will sing "Na Naḥ Naḥma Naḥman of Uman .."] [……..] [Huh?] [I poured for you, you make the blessing, good, it is hot] [If you can, pour me something hot]

[Shabbos coffee] [Saba, I merited to play for the host at his wedding, I played for him at the wedding, for the host] Yes? [Yes] {..} [His wedding was in Meron, at Rebbe Shimon] Yes [Yes.. Saba also got married in Meron, you know?] [Saba] [Yes] [Yisroel Dagan continues to play and sing: "This song tells about a Jew who has a message for every person This song tells about a Jew who sings "Na Naḥ Naḥma Naḥman of Uman" who sings "Na Naḥ Naḥma Naḥman of Uman.. This song tells……"] {...}…