Tape 10G, Side Bais
קסטה 10G — צד ב
Source: https://ajew.org/reader/saba-tape-transcripts/1/16

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(Saba laughs.) [They do everything for the chair — to remain close to power.]

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[Saba — do you remember Yitzchak Eizik? They said that you are a great rich man — a great rich man.] This Yitzchak Eizik — everyone who saw me walking — I am walking with — with this tourist — with such a suitcase — and he walked like an English lord. I walked with him in the market — and we came to print. [They said that now you will have two bakeries — not one bakery.] Everyone said: "Ho — Yisroel Ber — Yisroel Ber no longer has worries of livelihood." [He will now have a new bakery.] Yes. [He will have a new bakery.] He found such a tourist — and he is so rich — he is already — and he is with him together always — so {what worries of livelihood}. (Saba laughs.) Oy.

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And this tourist ate by me on Shabbos — and we made dances and joy. Yes. And he danced with me. And my son-in-law Shmuel was also there. He saw how the Dutch young man eats by me. Yes. (Saba laughs.) [I heard that he took revenge with this — he took revenge against the evil inclination — he took the most beautiful — the beauty of Yerushalayim.] Yes. [The most beautiful.] The most beautiful. I will show you what beauty is — I will show you. (Saba laughs.) He said to him: "Beauty — there is full of beauties. (not understood) — have you not seen him? Who saw him?" [Alon saw him.] Alon — Alon. [He was here — he was here — he was here.] Yes — and also Sharon? [I saw him.]

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You were there when he was there. [Is his wife still alive?] He is to this day happy that he merited to draw close to Rabbainu. (Saba laughs.) He remembers well. I was by him — in {northern} Tel Aviv — in his apartment — every night until midnight — until the last bus. We left the house. [Where were you living?] {At HaGeulah}. [Were you living in Tel Aviv or in Yerushalayim?] Yes — in Tel Aviv. In Tel Aviv I had four — four buses to travel. [Simple — double — triple — quadruple.] (Saba laughs.) [Saba — and did you not have…] And I did not have money for expenses. I said: "If I mention money to him — he will think that I — that I am doing business with him." (Saba laughs.) It is forbidden to mention money {with them}. (Saba laughs.) [It was near — at Dizengoff.] I conducted myself with him with wisdom. [At Dizengoff.] I did not say to him that I need money. (Saba laughs.) [Where did he live?] At Dizengoff. [At Dizengoff?] Yes. Ho — ho. [In what year was this? In what year?] 5711. [Before Shazar?] Ah? What? You were not yet born. [1951 — when you shouted there "Na Nach".] 5711. [You shouted "Na Nach" there — you woke up all Dizengoff. Were there people at Dizengoff at that time? Were there people there?] Oy — I walked with him in Tel Aviv — on Allenby — and in the finest restaurants. Yes. (Saba laughs.) And I looked at myself as a madman. [Why did you go strolling with him?] What are you doing? What is this with you? [Did you go into a restaurant?] What? Are you mad? [Did you go into a restaurant?] You enter — you enter into such a gehinnom? [Did you go into a restaurant?] Until midnight. [Did you go into a restaurant?] This is madness. [Did you go in with him to a restaurant?] Yes! [Did you eat?] I did not eat. But he — he ate. [Ah — he ate — and you?] He wanted me to eat. I said to him: "I do not eat in a restaurant — enough. (Saba laughs.) It is expensive — I am a miser — I am not." (Saba laughs.) [What? He did not tell you that he would pay for you?] But he danced with me on Shabbos night — he danced with me. My son-in-law Shmuel was there — was in the house. He was nullified — what is this? He — he found a Dutch young man and he. (Saba laughs.) [Gideon told me that you climbed up onto his roof and shouted shouts over all of Tel Aviv — you woke up all of Tel Aviv from sleep.] I do not remember. [You woke up all of Tel Aviv from sleep.] He had the name of "the English lord" in Yerushalayim. And in Tel Aviv — among my family — he had the name "the Dutch young man." (Saba laughs.) [He ate only in restaurants — what is this — he has no food at home?] He was a guest with me by Chava — by Hotel Shafer. Yes. (Saba laughs.) I had a Likutay Tfilos — I gave it to him — and I remained without the Likutay Tfilos. I gave it to him.

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[Saba — what about the clock? The clock — the big clock?] Ho. I was not feeling well — and I wanted to rise at midnight. What would be the purpose of me? So I went in Teveria — I went to the market — there was a clock there. So I heard that somehow… There is a clock that wakes one up well. So — so this is good for me. But I have no money — what — what — what? Nu. But first of all I entered to see the clock. (Saba laughs.) I need this. So I entered and was startled — such a clock that wakes one up every five minutes — with such sounds — this… Yes. So I said: "I need this clock." So I said in the shop: "I need this clock — but I will pay you — now I have no money — I will pay you." He — he — but he believed me. He understood that I would not steal the clock from him. So: "Take — take the clock." [Did you pay him?] No — on account — on the account. (Saba laughs.) The point is — I came home in great joy — I have such a clock that will wake me up at midnight. (Saba laughs.) The time came — the time of midnight arrived. And the clock was — was waking — and the more it woke me the more I wanted — I wanted to sleep more. So I did not rise — I did not rise. I said: "(not understood) — you have such a clock — and you do not rise at midnight? What is this with you? What will be of you?" (Saba laughs.) So I said: "No — the clock is not enough. I will buy two tin drums — two tin drums of kerosene — and I will stand — and I will put the clock on the drums — until there is such a sound." (Saba laughs.) [Bigger.] So I bought two drums — I put the clock on the drums. And every time it — it makes more — I wanted to sleep and hear nothing. (Saba laughs.) The desire for sleep was so great. (Saba laughs.) {This is Breslov? — Cruel one like me.} (Saba laughs.) Like this — like this…

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[Rebbe Yisroel?] Ah? [How was it with the first car that came to Teveria?] Ah? [You told me that everyone was frightened — they saw an automobile?] They said: "A bus came from England — such a bus — that runs at such speed over mountains and hills — it runs." (Saba laughs.) So the whole city came to see this wonder. So they saw that he came down the steps — from the hotel — and entered. [The driver?] Yes — the householder — the owner — the vehicle owner. And he started — he started [to ignite it] — to activate it — to drive. So they heard that it is beginning to move. So everyone was frightened: "It will go — it will go — it goes everywhere. [Yes.] And it has no eyes — what will be?" And such a flight broke out — each one ran — whoever did not go — did not go. (Saba laughs.) [Not a single person remained in Teveria — all of Teveria fled. It has no eyes — all of Teveria fled.] I was also there — inside the city. [Yes.] {When we thought} to see the wonder of the vehicle — only when it began to hum — then — then they said: "Now it is already going — how — what? What?" (Saba laughs.) [It will run us over — everyone ran?] Yes — nu — nu — there was such a flight. And also I saw for the first time a madman — an English madman. I was going to yeshiva. Below there was a restaurant of the hot springs of Teveria — a restaurant. And there was the office of the English when they came — conquered Teveria — their office was there. [Ah — they conquered the Turks.] Ah? [At the time they conquered the Turks?] Yes — yes. [Yes.] So I am going to yeshiva — and I see in the office that one English madman is holding some — some piece — a piece of iron by his ear. He is speaking — he is laughing. What is this? He is mad? To whom is he speaking? He is laughing and speaking like — (Saba laughs.) I said: "He — he is such a madman." (Saba laughs.) I had heard that there is a telegram — but a telephone — I had not heard that there is such a thing. So he — he holds a piece of iron and speaks to it and laughs. What is this? What kind of madman is this? To whom is he speaking? There is no one. (Saba laughs.) [Like a Breslover — to whom is he speaking? With whom is this madman speaking?] Once a relative came from Paris — from France — from Paris. [Yes — yes.] And there were Turks — we had the Turks. So the relative — she tells my mother: "With us in Paris there is — there is a refrigerator that makes ice and one does not need to buy." (Saba laughs.) I know — I went to buy ice — there was a great factory with many workers. How is it possible? I asked them — how. (Saba laughs.) The ice factory is large with workers and a small refrigerator — how did he look at this? So she said to me: "Do not wonder — in my house there is such a refrigerator — I have such a refrigerator in my own home." Yes. (Saba laughs.) I did not want to believe such a thing.

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[Good — if they had told you — if they had told you in the time of the Turks that there would be a state with planes — with tanks — you would have said: what madmen — are you normal? If they had told you then that there would be a state with tanks and planes — you would have said: have you fallen from the moon? Return to the moon — what are you talking about?] If they had told me seventy years ago that Breslov would survive after seventy years — I would have said: "They are mad — they do not know what they are saying — how can such a thing be? There was fear to touch a Breslov book." (Saba laughs.) [Not just the book — the table — the table.] The table. There were great stringent ones who did not want to touch — not — not — only not to touch the book. Even the table upon which the book {rested} — they did not want to touch. (Saba laughs.) This was — he was a great stringent one. (Saba laughs.) Nu. And now — before — before the computer. (Saba laughs.) Nu. I said: "Good — this is all the redemption. But how will the redemption come? They do not want to touch a Breslov book — how will the redemption be? What will be? What will be?" (Saba laughs.) So now I am alive and I see that everyone is ashamed. Breslov — all the time — {a flood of} time — more and more important and more… It goes and grows. [What? It is only beginning.] (Saba laughs.) They print and buy. Yes. [This is fashionable — Saba — this is fashionable today. Breslov — only Breslov — this is a new fashion.] I had it hard: "Master of the Universe — when — how will the redemption come? They do not want to touch the books of Breslov — and not… And it is impossible to obtain — and they do not print — and not… How will the redemption come?" (Saba laughs.) And Rebbe Yisroel (Kardonner) had an excellent place — it was Meron — he had paradise there — paradise. Nu. He abandoned Meron and abandoned Tzfas and abandoned the family. There is one thing — Yisroel Ber — in Teveria there is one whose name is Yisroel Ber. Yes — there is his place now. (Saba laughs.) And I said to him — the first night that he bought the bread and ate by us. I said to him: "This is from the heavens — they sent you to me. I am going through wars — difficult wars. I need someone to guide me. I am warning you — I am asking you: do not leave me!" (Saba laughs.) What is this? Is this sweet? [No.] Not sweet? [This is end of season.] Oy — oy — oy. I want to eat. [Only to eat?] Afterwards to sleep. (Saba laughs.) [Only to sleep?] Yes. And the clock I no longer have — the clock is gone. (Saba laughs.) But I heard that at the kibbutz of… [of Sharon] of Sharon — there is a better clock than mine. (Saba laughs.) [I do not understand anything — how will one make human beings from all the animals? I do not understand.]

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Yes. As it was hard for me — as it was hard for me: "What — what — what? How will the redemption come? Then there are no books to buy — even if there is some book — they are afraid — not — not to touch — perhaps he will be suspected of inclining toward Breslov. How will the redemption come? What?" Yes. (Saba laughs.) But I did not despair. I had great yearning. And like — like my heart says to me: "No — no — the time will come." [Certainly.] Certainly. (Saba laughs.)

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And now we are sitting in Bnei Brak — in a sukkah — and we are speaking such words — that this is a sweetening for the whole world — for all of Bnei Brak — for all of Yerushalayim — for all the Land of Yisroel — for all the world. Every word that is spoken of the holy Rabbainu — it is a great sweetening for the whole world. [But the world does not yet know of this?] Nu — it does not yet know. But it will know — it will know. The truth — the truth does not become nullified. The truth becomes stronger every day. (Saba laughs.)

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The whole world will turn around — and from all the animals — human beings will be made — human beings. And here Rabbainu reveals that he is the root of all the… of the redemption — and of all the souls in Yisroel — to return them — to bring them out of places — from place… Where — each one who has fallen there — and to bring out the whole world from troubles. The troubles are the desires and money and the pleasures of this world. And one does not need all this — one needs to eat a piece of bread. (Saba laughs.) With — with (not understood) what? For what purpose is all the money and buildings? What? In order to eat bread. (Saba laughs.) Oy.

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And Rebbe Nachman — he is the root of ours and of all the world. And this — in him — in him and in the Name — and in his Name "Na Nach Nachma Nachman" — this is the root of all creation — of all the Torah — and of {everything}. And this is effective for everything — to do teshuvah and… The main thing is wisdom. And if — if one lives even a thousand years — this is a matter that comes to an end — in the end it comes to an end. So what — what — what is it… Particularly we — in these generations — live fifty or sixty years. And also half of this one sleeps — half the time and… {Good} — what? For what purpose does one live? For what purpose is all the work? After — after fifty or sixty years one enters a hospital — and afterwards they put one in a refrigerator — and afterwards in the grave. What? What is there? One leaves all — all — all the money and all the work — one leaves it all in this world and… Yes. For what did you work fifty years as a slave? For what? He — he — he only always thought thoughts from the heart — where to get money — money — money — money — money. Yes. What is this? Madness — this is utter madness! Oy — nu — nu. (Saba laughs.) This… Oy. And this Petek came into the world through a stumbling — through a stumbling block. It is written — and the Gemara says — it is written in a verse in the Torah: "V'hamachshaylah hazos tachas yadecha" — "and this stumbling block is under your hand." Through the stumbling block — wonders happen. In particular — the holy Rabbainu — he brings in — he turns around all the distant ones and all the sinners and all — and all the world — turns them all to the Holy One Blessed Be He. He tur… (not understood) Only the word — one word of his — he — he conquers the whole world. He — he laughs at them — and they understand that they are in error. About what are they — they — they — they working so hard and pursuing so hard? For what? For whom? For what? (Saba laughs.) What? The main thing is "Na Nach Nachm…" — this is an easy thing to say. Because this — because when one says "Na Nach" — then one holds the root of all creation — and of all the Torah — and of all the tzaddikim and… Yes. And one enters into another world. (Saba laughs.) Only by mentioning the name of Rabbainu Rebbe Nachman — and like this — as is sealed with the seal in this Petek: "Na Nach Nachma Nachman MayUman." Yes. Nu.

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This needs to be in every place — in every shop — in every home — in all the world. (Saba laughs.) They will know that they are animals. [Who?] He turns to become — to become a human being. [Who is an animal? Who is this? The whole world?] The whole world. [So who remains a human being in this world today?] (Saba laughs.) [Who remains a human being in the world today? Are there human beings? How many human beings are there?] In every person there is good. [Yes.] And this good — even though it is very little — in a measure that does not — not — that not… But this — this has the power to transform the person. And the good that is in him — yes — it has power. The holy Rabbainu revealed that there is in every one — in every one…

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And he was the pride of the city — the pride of the yeshiva — the pride of {the city}. He was a student of — of the Chafetz Chaim. He studied with him in yeshiva and he was his student — he studied by him. [What was he called?] [Tzvi Litvak.] Ah? [Tzvi Litvak?] [Ah — Tzvi Hirsh.] Rav — Rav Tzvi — Rav Tzvi Rosenthal. [Ah — I did not know he was a student of the Chafetz Chaim.] Yes — a student of — of… Oy voy.

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(Saba laughs.) They do not need to eat. But I am a sick man. If you do not give me to eat — then not — then I will travel to the Land of Yisroel. [Good — eat there.] (Saba laughs.) [Here this is America — this is different food.] Yoy. [There is no tomato juice only here.] Oy — oy voy. (Saba laughs.) Oy — oy — oy — oy. I am so accustomed to such lowliness and to suffering troubles — I am already used to this. And blessed be Hashem — everything was in its proper time — in its moment. And everything was kept for now. And also the letter — from sixty-three years ago — yes — this was a preparation for now. Sixty years it was — it was without publicity. Yes. I told Rav Shlomo Wexler — to select individuals — to friends of mine — but not publicly. [Rebbe Yisroel — I think all of us were born for the letter.] What? What? [All of us were born for the letter.] (Saba laughs.) And the letter was before they were born. (Saba laughs.) Oy. Blessed be Hashem — blessed be Hashem — we have a house and a kitchen and a fire. And one can drink — there is to buy bread — blessed be Hashem — in abundance. And one can drink — to eat bread with tea — and to live a good life. (Saba laughs.) In America — they are from the Land of Yisroel — how we came — we come to America and we conquer a room and kitchen and water and everything that is needed. We have everything here — an… All the world was created for us. Yes. (Saba laughs.) [When will we receive a large printing press? We still need to receive a printing press and fill the homes of Yisroel with books — and that is it.] Everything — the Shabbos of — the Shabbatot of now — they are the preparation for the printing press. First of all we conquer America. (Saba laughs.) Afterwards the whole world. Not we — the letter. Everything is the letter. For what purpose — how are we here? If there were no letter — we have nothing to do in America. [This is true.] Hi — hi — hi — hi. Such wonders of Hashem — such a letter — such as one does not hear — we have not heard — and it is impossible to enter into the mind — such a miracle and wonder in this generation of darkness. [Rebbe Yisroel — what are these vowel points — the vowel points?] The vowel points? The vowel points are great secrets. The letters with the vowel points. And is it possible to read "Nachman" without vowel points? First of all there is a vowel point on the Nun — Nun — patach — "Nach" — patach — shva — "Nachm" — "Nachman." This is all vowel points. And also this is pashut — kaful… Why not five? Why not three? Only four! This is pashut — kaful — meshulass — meruba. This is the niggun that will be sung in the future — through Mashiach Tzidkaynu — to repair the world. And this song — he — he reveals here in this letter — that he is this song — pashut — kaful — meshulass — meruba — "Na Nach Nachma Nachman MayUman." (Saba laughs.) Oy — oy — oy. There is a choice. We — we should have been holy tzaddikim — not to ask from the whole world. Yes. When there is such a wonder — in this darkness there is such a wonder — such a letter — how it is sealed and how it is written — and how — the sign that no human being knew of this — only — only…

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Paper — and I did not pay attention to it. What? Paper? What is this paper? And what will the paper do for me? (Saba laughs.) This paper will conquer the whole world! (Saba laughs.) This is us — the world laughs at us: "What? They are fools. They — they — they say such things — how is it possible for them to know such a thing?" (Saba laughs.) But there is the tzaddik — Rabbainu Rebbe Nachman — who is this — this — this — he is all — all of him miracle. Every word that came from his mouth — everything he revealed — and all his matters — and every soul that draws close to him — and every book that is printed — this all touches the redemption. Because he is the main thing of the redemption. And this is hinted at — in this — in this letter: "Na Nach Nachm…" — he is the redemption. This is the song that will be sung — this is a song of kindness that will be sung in the future. He is this song! Yes. Oy — oy. One holds in hand — all the miracles — they were — they were — temporary — they were only in their time — in time — temporary. And now we — it is written in the Torah — the miracles of Egypt — and more miracles — miracles — miracles. But one does not see. We believe in the Torah that there were miracles — certainly. But this — it is alive and in existence — this is alive and in existence. And this is such a miracle — how did it come to Teveria? And how did it come into the book? And how did I open the book and there was a letter there? And one sees such Providence with one's eyes — one sees such wonders as is impossible — beyond nature. Yes. And the holy Rabbainu writes about me — about Yisroel Ber: "V'alecha amarti — mein Feiyerel vet tlien biz Mashiach vet kumen." The holy Rabbainu said this: "Mein Feiyerel vet tlien biz Mashiach vet kumen." He promised that he — that his fire will not be extinguished. So this that I said then — this is "v'alecha amarti" — "v'alecha amarti mein Feiyerel vet tlien biz Mashiach vet kumen." (Saba laughs.) Oy — oy. This is a wonder — a wonder — everything is a wonder. How he… If there had been some great one of the generation — a scholar and a tzaddik and… Yes. But no — a simple ordinary person like me. And still. And I know myself — it is impossible for me… How he — he — he — he — he took — he took Yisroel Ber — he drew me close first to the holy Rabbainu. Yes — to draw close to the holy Rabbainu with such mesiras nefesh — with might — with such might. Yes. And afterwards the matter of the letter — the matter of the letter. Sixty years — and it is alive — it is in the world. A thin piece of paper — a piece of paper. How does it survive sixty years? Even a person of sixty years — he is already an old man. Yes. And a piece of paper — it is alive sixty-three years. How does it exist in the world? And also it was in great dangers. I sent it to Poland before the war — to Poland. And they returned it to me. And I received it by post. And this was a miracle — a miracle — a miracle. Yes. Oy — oy — oy.

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The letter — so the Holy One Blessed Be He sent Aharon. It is through him. And were it not for Aharon — the letter would not have been revealed. [Not me — this is you — what am I.] (Saba laughs.) What do you have? [What? I have nothing.] [He distributed the letter — Saba.] Ah? [He distributed the letter.] What is this? [What? This?] What is this? [This is a tape.] Ah — I thought this was the letter. (Saba laughs.) Oy — oy — oy. The letter — it slept sixty years — and did not — not do anything — no — no publicity and no this. Yes. And after sixty years — it awakened — awakened slowly — slowly. Yes. And it said — and it says: "Hineni — I have come now — I am coming — yes — to repair the world." (Saba laughs.) [Kobi — this is a great wonder — Kobi — Kobi — this is a great wonder — Rebbe Yisroel.] Ah? [Even if you came to America a previous time only for Yaakov — it was worthwhile.] Yes? [Yes.] Blessed be Hashem. Oy — oy. When will you return me? [When?] Yes. [Chezkelhu — when will they return him?] [When Mashiach comes.] (Saba laughs.) [There is good soup here — tomato juice.] I need money for a ticket. (Saba laughs.) He tells me soup — I need money. [There is the Master of the Universe — ask him whether you need money for a ticket or redemption — one of the two.] Ah. Oy. It is good that you mentioned two weeks. [Me?] Nu — and if it will be three weeks? Then you need… [So what? I did not agree to two weeks.] So you agreed — you said: "Good — let two weeks come." [I agreed — I am ready even for one day — Rebbe Yisroel — I am ready for one day — one day I am ready — just so there be redemption.] Just let it come. [Yes — even tomorrow — just tomorrow — and that is it — so that there be redemption — two weeks — I will not let you — I hereby declare — from now until the redemption I will not separate from you. Wherever you go I am after you — Rebbe Yisroel — Rebbe Yisroel.] Nu. [From now until the redemption I will not leave you — I cannot live one day if you are not by me — I am like dead — Rebbe Yisroel.] Ah? [I am like dead if you are not beside me — I will pursue you from one end of the world to the other end.] Ho. [I will not leave you until Mashiach comes — like — like glue — like the mud that was in Yavne'el — like this I will be with you — I will not leave you.] Oy. [I cannot — I am like dead.] Hi.

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So come… Hi — hi — hi — hi. Nu. Hi. I bless you with all my heart: