Tape 15, Side A

...So he said to him, “Go look for an apartment and tell me how much it costs” The landlord was very happy and said to him, “For the apartment I want payment in advance, two months in advance” He went and.. [..] “Good, two months in advance, good” So he gave him all the money, yes And there was food for the donkeys Afterwards, the revelation of the matzos—the matzos already.. I told you That the one who makes flour had, had flour for sale And Rebbe Yisroel came; he said to him that he—I am giving you, I have flour and I am giving you He said that “I have no money” “Later, after Pesach, I am not afraid of you,” yes In short, there was Pesach in Tiberias [And wine?] And wine—I no longer remember, but the Holy One Blessed Be He prepared everything for him; he had it in great abundance, yes [Ask, how was the..] [How was the Seder?] And my father, he.. He awakened me; I have no time, I have no time They are not yet going to the yeshiva, and.. yes It was necessary to buy potatoes, potatoes And he needed to go; he wanted to go to the place {where they grow\where they receive} the potatoes [….] So that it would be in honor of Pesach {singing}; everything he wanted, he had Everything for Yisroel Ber [Mesiras nefesh] Perhaps I will succeed in drawing close to our holy Rabbainu [He gave his life] And I am not telling you everything; I have no strength The shouts of, of the donkey owner were.. The whole city—it was heard throughout the city […...] “What is this? {….} I am not accustomed to this.. [There is no money] If there is no money, one does not travel” [One does not travel] [……………………………………..] [……………………………………..] He took everything without money—flour and matzos to bake; he paid for everything after Pesach And I saw wonders; he took several, several jugs for Pesach

And he paid a lot of money so that there would be water, there would be water from before Pesach until after Pesach The whole {week} [How was it on Pesach, Saba?] I had great joy that I merited, that I merited to see such things, such wonders I saw his prayer and his hisbodedus And I saw that he was entirely truth and emunah, and there is no, there is no one like this in the world, yes And I was very happy; the Holy One Blessed Be He had mercy on me and gave me such a thing—Rebbe Yisroel And I saw that he was dancing. I did not know; I came, and just like now I came to his home and saw that he was dancing “Oy, Master of the Universe, You gave me Chassidim who dance, {with this}, ho, ho, ho..” Nu, nu, nu, nu, nu.. Afterwards he was happy. They came to my father and told him: “He became Breslov” He said: “What? He became Breslov? If I tell him not to be Breslov, then he will not be.” I came, and he said to me: “This one and that one came and told me {that you became} a Breslov Chassid. I do not want this in any way” And he was blind and poor, very poor and also blind—my father And I said to him: “Father, I want only Breslov” “Oy vey iz mir” Mother, mother heard such words “Such a disaster, that he wants only Breslov” […………………….] […………………….] He began to cry; father began to cry very much, from the enormity of the grief That he.. “He became a Breslov Chassid” Suddenly—what is this? What? Nu, nu, he was, he was very happy I cannot tell everything, but he cried [Good, blessed be Hashem] {..} [May Hashem help that we merit to walk in the ways..] He came and told him, “He, the landlord, wants two, two months in advance” He opened the.. [Cashbox] And gave him, “What, two months in advance”

He gave him money and money and.. yes, so that he would pay for the apartment and pay for the donkey {Wha…..}, for the donkey And blessed be Hashem, he took all the utensils to the apartment, to the apartment.. blessed be Hashem But, but there was no {...}.. yes What? They, they will forget? Th.. [The Slonim people] The Slonim Chassidim: “He became Breslov” They went once again to my father: “Your son became Breslov” [Oy, oy, oy] And I came. “They said..” Father said to me: “This Rav Motl told me, and this one told me, that you became a Breslov Chassid I do not want this in any way; I want you to be like, like the whole world” I told him that this will not, not be; I want only Breslov!” {Nu, pray} And mother heard how he was crying and pleading with me: “Have mercy on me and on yourself; do not be Breslov You need to make a match—who will take you? Who will take you? I do not know what I am saying” I was a bridegroom, in Tzfas, so he said to me: “The mechutan will hear that you became Breslov Then he will take the wife away and not, and not give me the wife; he will not give me his daughter” And so it was My father-in-law was a great opponent of Breslov, and he told me: “I do not want Breslov in any way” I had a handshake agreement with Rebbe Yisroel that we needed to see each other once by day and once by night Whether to learn, whether not, but to see each other—we needed to see each other Nu, nu, he locked the door and did not let me go out He did not know about this, but he wanted me not to go to Rebbe Yisroel And I said to my wife: “What is this? He took me as a bridegroom not {…}, not for Chassidus What is this? I want Breslov” So she said to her father: “He wants only Breslov; I do not want a get”

He beat her with murderous blows so that she would accept a get “What—Breslov? Is the world ownerless? No, this will not be” And I was very stubborn and did not, and I wanted only Breslov I slept in the synagogue {And.. and.. and I did not eat, not even bread\And.. and.. and I could not go either}, to bring money, {..} And father is blind and poor, and I distress him so much Father and mother heard that I wanted only Breslov Nu, nu, they had.. they had, they had grief as great as if I were, I were lying dead, yes Nu, nu, there is more, and more, and more, and more, and.. to this day there is, there is and there is [What is there?] [Stories] [Ah] [Such things, tales] [..]… ...I needed a siddur in order to pray And I wanted a beautiful siddur, a siddur containing all the prayers and all.. and Tehillim, and Ma’amados But there was no such siddur in Tiberias, perhaps in Yerushalayim And my mother needed to go to Yerushalayim I took money, money of my own There was someone in Tiberias, Yaakov Kasir, an old man, yes, and he had money And he was a great miser, and did not give donations, did not give tzedakah And I prayed such prayers; he said to me, “I..” And every day he gave me a large coin I took the coins and gave them to mother; I had several coins I gave them to mother so that she would buy, so that she would bring me from Yerushalayim a “Kol-Bo” siddur, such a siddur that has.. [….]… ...{In particular, the fear} concerning this siddur: “Perhaps it has prayers from Breslov in it?” [……..] Nu, nu, who can tell what I went through? Now I laugh and you laugh; if you had been there, nu, nu.. [We would already have been crying] You would have been crying {very much} together with me What is this? He, he.. no, and there was no Breslov Chassid in Tzfas

Nu, and suddenly I became a Breslov Chassid, and everyone knew that Rebbe Yisroel was a Breslov Chassid And I learned with Rebbe Yisroel, and I prayed with Rebbe Yisroel And I remember—it was very joyous, in Tiberias it was very joyous [“And the city of Shushan..”]… ...{Donkeys} I remember to this day, as though now, as though now, such shouting “What is this? Donkeys—he, he works all day and needs to eat What is this? This, this..? Can I give on credit? What? What is this? Is this a store?” [….] Were it not for the Rav giving him money, he would have paid, ah.. the donkey owner {….} And they also need to work today He argued: “If you have no money, why did you travel?” […………….] […………….] He was in Tiberias for several years Yes, and everyone was an opponent; everyone was Slonim Chassidim—Karlin and Slonim And everyone was an opponent, and I was alone, yes And I always walked together with Rebbe Yisroel To hear from him some words of the living God, some word, yes And they saw and said: “Yisroel Ber walks with Rebbe Yisroel, and he studies Breslov books What.. no, have you heard such a thing? He does not listen to his father or to us, and he is very stubborn He does not.., he wants only Breslov” And my father—I distressed him so much, yes He had grief, to him, so much; I said: “I want only Breslov” Yisroel Meir, Yisroel Meir—he knows, he knows a great deal I told him a little, to Yisroel Meir.. [Gabbai] Gabbai Nu, a thing, such a thing I never saw—such shouting and cries from the donkey owner: “The donkey needs to eat, and I need to eat—what is this? You have no money? No, one does not travel” [The donkey needs fuel….]…

...[He received a tikkun, Eliyahu HaNavi …….] [Good] [The time for Mincha has arrived] [Saba, we are praying Mincha]… ...Holy tzaddikim—truth, and emunah, and.. Oy, how good, and how pleasant, how good If there are {upon him} humiliations and bloodshed, for the sake of truth, for the sake of the Holy One Blessed Be He, for the sake of the Torah How good and beautiful it is Our holy Rabbainu speaks about this in Likutey Moharan, in the Torah “Call Yehoshua” {What, humiliation}, Rabbainu says: “The essence of teshuvah is through humiliations and bloodshed” “One must transform dam into dom” Not to, not to answer th.. th.. the opponents Only s.. silence Dam, dam—dom Blood and bloodshed?—Silence! Oy, good, good; if only I knew what this is, how very precious humiliations and bloodshed are I would pray to the Holy One Blessed Be He to give me more, more, and more And they—I saw how the Holy One Blessed Be He {repays}, ho.. Yes, he was a king in pride, yes And he had, he made a bank—his son, Elazar Klirs He made “Klirs Bank,” a bank, yes It was the largest bank in Tiberias, a bank And I had no bread to give the small children, the children No clothing, and no shoes, and no, and no bread, and no clothing—nothing I do not know how I am alive, and how my children are alive {…...}… ...[Saba and the friends sing: “Na Nach Nachma Nachman Meuman…”]… ...[Saba and the friends sing: “Na Nach Nachma Nachman Meuman...”] {Eighty years} there was no… ...To reach Uman—the whole world, the English, America, {..}; to Uman—no! {They saw who was coming, and..}, and people ask for a visa. Where to? Uman? No! Uman—no!

Now {through} our holy Rabbainu, he sh.., he {{..}}, he told them to enter {the grave}, the grave, yes {And he, he} conquered the whole world; he.., Uman—he, he is in Uman {. .}, and whoever wishes can come to Uma.., can come to Rabbainu Such a wonder, that everyone can come to Rabbainu And he rectifies us, he helps us, he.. he revives us He, he gives us wisdom, and intelligence, and understanding, and such a light as there has never been And now is the time close to the coming of Mashiach, yes Our holy Rabbainu writes to me in..{...}, in his letter “And concerning you I said: mein fayerl vet tlien biz Mashiach vet kumen (“my little fire will smolder until Mashiach comes”)” “My precious student” No name is written there, without a name: “My precious student” “Concerning you I said: mein fayerl vet tlien biz Mashiach vet kumen (“my little fire will smolder until Mashiach comes”)” And I was very broken, so he wanted, he.. t.. t.. to revive me So he, he, so he came {….} “It was very difficult for me to descend.. to tell you, because I derived very great pleasure from your avodah And concerning you I said: mein fayerl vet tlien biz Mashiach vet kumen (“my little fire will smolder until Mashiach comes”)” What will be? What will be now? “And concerning you I said” “And concerning you I said,” nu.. Thus one can attest to Rabbainu’s words It is the generality of the entire Torah, the generality of all the souls of Yisroel, all the Jews, yes He writes to you, to him, and to me—he derived very great pleasure He writes, “It was very difficult for me to descend to you” What is “to you”? No, not, not only to you To you, and to you, and to all of Yisroel He has already conquered; he already knows how to help us, and how to take us out of the darkness And how to illuminate within us the light of Hashem, and the Torah, and emunah What..? There has never yet been such a thing in the world

Now, {yes}, now, blessed be Hashem, it has been revealed in the world that our holy Rabbainu The whole world can come to him.. to Uman {{...}}.., in two and a half hours {{to Yerush..}}.., f.. from Lod {{to Yerush..}}.., t.. t.. t.. to Uman {{. ., ah, three..}}.., two hours {and..}.. and a half Nu.. The whole world knows, the whole world knows that it was closed, and no human being could come to Uman, yes Because they hated religion, they were {. .}, they hated; they did not, not, not, not allow anyone to reach Uman {Nu}, and we arrived, we came to Uman, ah, yes, ah, secretly and with great suffering {…}, and we suffered very much But now Rabbainu told them: “They should go, they should go to Russia” {…}, I do not know, they do not know where they are; not one remains {of all the.…} Communism {..}, without, without a bullet, without war, yes And our holy Rabbainu {b..}.. became famous and was revealed to the whole world, {a..}.., anyone can come, even without a visa. I was by, by the president, and by {Shamir}, yes… ...Because they do not know where he is from So they took him to the city, and it became known that he was the child who had died, yes That he—his mother took him (not understood) and gave him to the Baal Shem Tov {“And see what, what is this? Be with the gift that you gave me”} Then everyone, I (not understood) And Rebbe Yisroel told me that he had been at his tziyun, the child’s And he saw written on, on the tombstone: Here is buried Yisroel; the child Yisroel died He already—he is alive; he is alive for several, {four} years, yes But on the tombstone it is written: Yisroel died… ...Ho, Rebbe Yisroel Oy, Rabbainu, Rabbainu, Rabbainu What this is—a matter of wonders of wonders, such a wonder as does not exist in the world

That they see, they feel—everyone—that every word of his He, he told the tales in, in Yiddish, in Yiddish But they need, need to be printed in all languages, so that the whole world will know what, what there is in the world Such a wonder, that he can tell such tales There are no, no other tales like these; there are no other Torah teachings like these [……..]… That this is a matter, {ah}.. such a wonder, {this} Yes So {th.. th..} there will be more, there will be more, there will be more The whole world {w.. w..} will recognize and know what {ah.. ah.. th..} Rebbe Nachman {Meuman} is, and what Uman is—who is singing: “Na Nachma Nachman Meuman, Na.. Nachman is here..” [Saba and the friends sing: “Na Nach Nachma Nachman Meuman”]… ...[Saba and the friends sing: “Na Nach Nachma Nachman Meuman”]…