Tape 86, Side A

...The Creator of the world {for the disgrace of} the tzaddik, He "repays well" Oy, this is terrible He spoke with such a kind of arrogance [..] About Rabbainu and about Rebbe Nassan [..] . On that day, it was Thursday [Yes] On that day [Yes] They arrived in Tzfas [Yes] All the villagers and all the non-Jews, and they mixed and burned {….} The point is: {…} they reached his house, they reached his son [..] He got married [..] His son [Yes] They arrived, he was a "healthy young man," he fought with the non-Jews {And the non-Jews …..} cut him into pieces, pieces [Pshh..] Alive [Ah] {…. Holy Shabbos} [Ah] I do not know how far [Ah] Then I saw [Yes] How, how the Creator of the world is stringent when people speak loshon hara about the tzaddik [Yes, yes] More than everything, more than the entire Torah He spoke loshon hara about Rabbainu and about Rebbe Nassan, Rebbe Nassan, he spoke loshon hara about Rebbe Nassan, the student, the student of Rabbainu [Yes, yes] Oy vey, so it was for them, {..} the Creator of the world can "repay well" [..] He repaid, he went to the funeral [..] Then he went, pieces of the body, legs, with hands {..} Limbs, pieces, pieces, yes The son got married, and.. and the non-Jews cut him into pieces, pieces And afterward he could not, many non-Jews arrived, {police were necessary, ……..} and afterward they were able to hold the funeral [Yes] Nu, nu, on that day he got "sugar" and he became ill He was in the hospital together with Rabbi Kalansky [Who?] In Doctor Wallach's hospital [..K.. Kehat, Rav Kehat?] Kalansky, Kalansky] [K.., Kalansky]

. He was a gaon in the world [..] He was {..} the gaon of the entire world, he was a "complete gaon" The Ra.., the Rebbe Kl.., Klansky [Klansky] [Yes] Rav.., the.. Rav Moshe Kliers was nothing in the world compared to him [..] Nu, and he spoke, he spoke, I heard: "That our holy Rabbainu is such a kind of chiddush that never was in the world" [Pshh..] He said to him: “What are you talking about?" So he said to him: “I say that there is a book" "So such a kind of tzaddik as our holy Rabbainu..” [Ah, ah] "{..}, had not yet been in the world" [..pshh..] Yes This is from the words of our holy Rabbainu, he said: "A chiddush like me has still never been in the world," yes So he said: “What kind of statement is this?” He said: “I am speaking, I know what I am speaking, that is how it is" He found the son, pieces, the funeral was with the body, {..} Pieces, pieces of legs, pieces of hands [..] {….} He saw what became of the child, {what was done..} [Yes] Pieces, pieces, {…} [..] On that day [Pshh..] Thursday, Thursday he traveled to Tzfas, afterward they arrived At the time he arrived he saw.. Oy.. I saw how the Creator is particular about the honor of the tzaddik [{…} Pshh..] Mo.., more than about His own honor [Wow, wow] That is how it is written in the Gemara [Yes, yes, yes] [“Like the pupil of His eye"] Ah? [The Holy One, blessed be He, is particular..] {Yo..} [About the honor of the tzaddik, like about the "pupil of the eye"] About.., about the.., no, "more than about His honor" ["Than His honor" ah, "more than His honor,” pshh..] Nu, nu They had it for all the years, {….for all eternity} [S.. S.. Saba, Saba, so whoever..] He walked with such a kind of pride

[Whoever disputes the Petek, then he disputes Rabbainu, right? Saba] Ah.. that I do not know.. {..} I want to.. eat and drink, and there is none, none, I have none Ah.. give.. give me [Cola] A little [Cola] Ah? Is it {here?} [Cola, cola] Shoin.. {…. I can can call him a proud person} And he spoke about, about Rabbainu and about Rebbe Nassan, he is the disciple "They had," “they had" On that day they found the child who had married, in pieces, in Tzfas Rabbainu Klansky spoke of the greatness of Rabbainu, he said: "That he was such a tzaddik, such a gaon that there is none like him" So he said to him: "What are you talking about?" So he said: "I know what I am speaking" [Pshh..] Rabbainu Klansky held very strongly of Rabbainu Everyone knows of this, all of Bnei Brak and.. and.. and.. the whole world {..} Rav A.. Alfandari was the greatest, the greatest of all the.. of all the Sephardim, yes {….yo} {..} Rabbainu Klansky said: “That our holy Rabbainu was a chiddush that had never been in the world" [What.., what was his name? Kl.., Klansky?] Rabbainu Klansky [Rabbainu Klansky] Yes, so he said to.. to.. Moshe Kliers [..] So he said: “He was such a kind of chiddush that there is none like him, there had never been such a kind of Rebbe in the world," yes {{ah..}} and he went, and became ill, and afterward died Ah.. he found the funeral, he found.. the funeral, {..} And he saw the funeral, then he saw the son cut into pieces He spoke, and.. {….} another one spoke, {..}, loshon hara about Rabbainu and about Rebbe Nassan Nu, nu.. he arrived in Tzfas and all the gentiles, all the Arabs arrived in Tzfas to kill Jews

They reached his son.. with a taxi {Nu}, he got "sugar," he became ill, il.., and ill and ill and ill and afterward died [Pshh..] Today presumably no trace remains in Teveria, {..} […………….] […………….] Ah, I want to eat something [……..……..] […………] Shoin [Shoin, shoin] Ah.. ah.. ah.. ah, cola, cola, cola [Cola?] Is there, is there more? [There is a little cola here………] {Presumably}… ...He was, Moshe Kliers was their Rav [..] Ah.. ah.. ah.. {oy vey}… ...Today there is no.., there was a small cheder, a small synagogue, today there is nothing (gornisht) And all of them died, young Ah.. today {…... in contrast to .…..} they see that the whole world wants Breslov, {…} {..}... ...Ah.. thirty, thirty and.. and two, thirty-three, {..} thirty {approximately} Ah.. he was {ill}, rachmana litzlan, he became ill from this {..} Rabbainu Klansky and Moshe Kliers were both in the hospital And Rabbainu Klansky said about our holy Rabbainu {..}: "A chiddush like me has still never been in the world" "What are you talking about? What are you saying?" So he said: “I know what I am speaking" {….} The whole city was in danger, many gentiles arrived with, with knives {{The.. .…. …. …}}{the Jews know………}...{{The.. .…. …. …}}{the Jews know………}...They set the shops alight, they made a fire, fires, there it was {…..} {{The.. .…. …. …}} {The Jews know………}... {{The.. .…. …. …}} {The Jews know………}... ...{...} He arrived with great pride [Yes] Up to the heavens, and he went, {went} with the whole cong.., with the whole congregation

And he said and he spoke loshon hara about Rabbainu and his disciple Rebbe Nassan, ah.. also said loshon hara and said {loshon hara} this and this, and.. yes {….} On this day, Thursday he w.., he went, traveled by taxi to Tzfas At the time that all, all the gentiles came, all the Arabs came to Tzfas, and to burn all of Tzfas And he came, {…} and he {..} had one battle, he was mighty, yes So they took revenge on him, and cut him into small pieces [Where did he come from?] Ah? [Did he come from Teveria to Tzfas? Where did Moshe Kliers's son come from] Who? [From Teveria to Tzfas?] Who? [Moshe Kliers's son] Ah [Where did he come from?] {..} From Teveria [To Tzfas] To Tzfas, yes He came at the time when all the Arabs came from all the villages {...} to kill Jews and burn Tzfas, and he was mighty, and he fought them, and they were many, and they cut him into pieces [You told us that his cries were heard as far as Teveria] Yes, his cries were heard up to the heavens [As far as Teveria they heard his cries, he was {such} a mighty man] He.. Oy vey, so he spoke loshon hara about our holy Rabbainu, I heard My ears heard what he spoke, about this and about this, another one spoke after him, yes Oh.. ah.. the holy {…}…, ah.. Moshe Kliers spoke about Rabbainu and.. and about Rebbe Nassan {….. and another one …..}, they spoke loshon hara about Rebbe Nassan About Rabbainu, about Rebbe Nassan, {ah..} Nu, nu, so they had it Rabbainu Klansky said: “A chiddush like Rebbe Nachman had never been in the world" He said to him: "What, what are you talking about?" {He}: "I know what I am speaking" I had great miracles, the bullets that they fired, bullets, the Arabs

[Yes] {With}, with a weapon, yes, and a bullet passed by me here, like this [Pshh..] The bullet entered the sidelock [The peyos] . {and I was saved\and I remained} [Alive] Yes, I was saved, nothing, there was nothing [When was this?] Eh? [When was this? During the Mandate?] Eh? [During the Mandate?] {….}, {before the Mandate..}… …{…} then they already had [You said “Na Nach Nachma Nachman MeUman,” Saba] Eh? [You said “Na Nach Nachma Nachman MeUman”] {..} [And the bullet did not, did not reach] I was very concealed [Yes] The goyim inflicted such severe tortures, they abducted, the rabbis they abducted Here and.., with knives, and here and throughout the body But, but the.. bullet entered here and went out, and did not, and did not, and did not do {anything} No, no {… … ….} One, very young, and he became sick and sick, and.. until he.. until he.. until he died {...}, until he passed away {Ah, I saw what this is called ………. regarding the holy Rabbainu} (Saba laughs) [Was it only he who spoke, or were there other people who.. opposed Rabbainu?] Eh? Two [Two] Rabbi Kliers and one other [Ah, spoke] {And do not ask who it is}, eh, {…..} {..} [Two people spoke about Rabbainu? Saba, Rabbi Kliers, and who else spoke?] {{Do not ask who it is\\Rabbi Kliers …}} spoke He came to his house, he, he stood and gave {..} a sermon He said about Rabbainu and Rebbe Nassan, eh.. e.. said about, about Rabbainu and about Rebbe Nassan {together\mockery} Nu, nu, {God forbid, no} Eh, eh, eh, eh [Eh, eh, ashrei..]... ...In Yerushalayim {….}.. There was a Jewish man there, like this, neither old nor young, I said to him {….. …..}

“It is impossible in these generations, he, he is such a wonder, without this, life is not life, no, no, no nothing” What is this?, {a great pity} I gave him {the “Likutay Tefilos”} [The “Likutay Tefilos”] {…} I gave it to him, afterward he: “Oh, you revived my soul {that a tzaddik came}” [What did he do?] He was {all good} so much [Yes] Yes, “I did not know that {we have} such a treasure.. [Such a treasure] “Likutay Tefilos”..” He came every night to the synagogue with “Likutay Tefilos” [Pshh..] {To pray}, and said “Likutay Tefilos,” and he did not know what to do with me I gave him such a gift, “Likutay Tefilos” Now everyone, all of Tel Aviv are dead, passed away, only I remained alone Yes, all the friends and all the chevra and all.. [Yes] They are all no more [No more] As though they had never been in the world, only I alone remained I, I begin to think, where is the entire {group}, where is the whole world? Where is everyone? Where is everyone? They are all, they, they are in the ground [Pshh..] Only I, I alone remained, I remained with, with “Likutay Tefilos” {Ay, in all}.., he had a store on Herzl Street, he had a store, and he had a livelihood, {..} [Where, in Tel Aviv?] In Tel Aviv, yes He came every night to the synagogue with “Likutay Tefilos” […] And he lived a good life, from “Likutay Tefilos,” and every time he called me He, he {supported} me and he was always happy, and said to me: “What did you do? You {did} me such good, such light,” and “Likutay Tefilos,” {yes}, “Likutay Tefilos” of, of the holy Rabbainu Rebbe Nassan And today I only want to lie down and sleep [But, e.. e..]…

...{…} [It was new] Yes, he renews himself every day, he becomes new [That was good] I knew where his house was, and I came, he says to me: “A person needs to eat” He, he gave me kugel, and on the holy Shabbos, kiddush, and I had {for which\as help} Eh, and he so {..} loved me, I gave him “Likutay Tefilos,” I do not want, I only want to sl… {({})} ...{…}, I am looking for some friend, there are none [Do you want to be my friend? Saba, Saba, do you want to be my friend? Do you want to be my friend?] What? [I want to be your friend, do you want to be my friend?, a friend, I am ready to be your friend] […..] [I am ready to be your friend, Saba, just pray for me]… [Saba and the friends sing: “Na Nach Nachma Nachman MeUman..”]… ...{The holy Rabbainu, eh, … .. ….}... ...{..} In Tel Aviv, this did not yet exist, this did not yet exist {this the trees} [It did not exist, what?] Eh? [What did not exist in Tel Aviv?] {Some olive, the tree}, even this did not exist… ...[…] I remember a hundred years ago Eh.. perhaps you will give me the urine vessel [Yes]… ...{I lived far from the mikveh}, and I went every day, “First of all, mikveh,” each and every day; today no mikveh {and no..}... ...Tel Aviv looked like a village, like a small Arab village […….] How it was built slowly, slowly, another house, another building, another building... ...{….} [Fortunate are you, fortunate are you]… ...[How am I, what?]… ...{You came here} [I came to visit Saba] To my shack [Yes] [……] [...I came for him, to visit him..]…

...Want to eat and drink [Do you want to eat and drink?] Yes […..] Do you have a fire here? [Yes] Make me a cup or half a cup of honey and milk [Honey and milk] I love honey and milk, I love it [Gladly]… ...[The officer said to you: “Give the note”] Yes [He said to you] Yes [You do not know?] I said to him: “Why? Why?” He said: “Why? It will drive all of Bnei Brak and the whole world crazy” You know {Hebrew} [Yes, what do you not know?] You do not know what this is [Yes] The officer, he said to me: “Give, give the note” I said to him: “What is it? What is so terrible?” He said to me: “You do not know? It will drive the whole world and all, and all, and all of Bnei Brak crazy” Nu, {we} cannot sleep, rest a little? Eh.. eh.. eh.. [There is noise] “It will drive all, all of Bnei Brak and the whole world crazy [..] You ask what, what is it?” [What is this? Yes] I said to him: “I do not remember where I gave it” He said to me: “I have many soldiers, they will search and search, until they find it” [Yes] I had great anguish, what? What can I do? Then I remembered that you came and said to me, {that he can} have pity on you And give you for the night the book, the.. book of.. [The note] {That you should do for President Shazar}, yes [The note, the note, that night you gave me the note, Saba] Eh, eh [Legs on the bed?] Oy, take off the shoes, and put the.. {….} leg on the bed… ...{…} […] {Yes}, everyone would look at me with..sourness, with sour faces [Sour] Yes, “Yisroel Ber came from Teveria,” he, he thought, whether to greet me, or not? What, what to do? So he made a compromise, he greeted me, but in a whisper and in secret

[Oy...] And I also made Shmuel Horowitz Ah, how much his mother would cry: “Why are you doing this? Why, why did you seek the light of Breslov? Chabad, which is what I am, is no good?” Ah, boruch Hashem I, I spoke with him, and I explained to him what Breslov is, and I told him about Rebbe Yisroel (Kardonner), that he goes, that every day he gets up at midnight and goes, to.. where? [To the field, to the feld] Ah? [To the feld, he goes to the field] Ah, to the field, yes, yes I saw with my own eyes, I {am crying}, I was able to do it, I fell, yes And he was a mighty hero, and he stood with great might before Hashem Yisborach, he strengthened himself like a lion to rise {To rise in the morning like a lion} so that he would awaken the dawn (Saba and the friends shout ah.. ah.. ah.. ah..) [He would take his shoes in his hands, right? Rebbe Yisroel (Kardonner)] Ah? [Rebbe Yisroel (Kardonner), he would take the shoes in his hands] Yes, in.. in.. in.. {self-exaltation} in.. in.. in.. in.. in.. {…} what is it called? What do you call it? [A towel, a towel] Ah? [A towel] A towel, yes, yes, he took the, the shoes in a towel, yes So that the friends, the neighbors, would not hear, so that they would not hear {..} Ah, I have no strength {{...you, what, what is your name?}}…