Tape 97, Side B

...(A recording of Yisroel Dagan telling about Saba accompanied by a melody): [Young Yisroel was very sad How was it that on such a holy day, on the seventeenth of Tammuz, his evil inclination caused him to stumble and he ate? How was it that he fell? After five years of strengthening himself in the service of Hashem Yisbarach With Rebbe Yisroel (Kardonner), the righteous and holy Breslover who drew him close to Breslov Chassidus In them he tasted the taste of prayer with self-sacrifice Dancing and attachment to the blessed Creator, little eating and sleeping He arose almost every night at midnight to say Tikkun Chatzos And journeyed through the holy and pure Torahs of the holy Rabbainu Always in joy, always in faith, truly Gan Eden And now he ate on the seventeenth of Tammuz He fell into great sadness and black melancholy, and nothing could comfort him He prayed to Hashem Yisbarach to send healing for his soul, to save him For a week he went about like this And after a week he heard an inner voice saying to him: "Approach the bookcase, open whatever book it may be, and there you will find healing for your soul" He paid no attention to it, but when the voice returned twice, and three times He approached the bookcase, opened a book, and inside the book found a letter, and in it was written: "It was very difficult for me to descend to you, my precious student To tell you that I derived great pleasure from your service And about you I said, my little fire will burn until Mashiach comes Be strong and courageous in your service, Na Nach Nachma Nachman MeUman And with this I will reveal to you a secret, and it is full and heaped from line to line (Pei Tzadi Pei Tzadi Yud Hei) And through strengthening in service you will understand it, and the sign: on the seventeenth of Tammuz they will say that you are not fasting" When he finished the letter, he entered into immense joy All the sadness and black melancholy disappeared from him as though they had never been And he began dancing and singing out of joy]

...This is the Petek, the Petek {this is} the beginning of the redemption [..] Yes, "Na Nach"—we did not know of this, and this secret is not {brought} and not in the Zohar and not {…..} And is not mentioned, only in the Petek; the holy Rabbainu revealed it in the Petek "Na Nach Nachm..." with dots […….] […] Because this is a wonder, a great wonder, it is impossible to understand it: how did the Petek enter the book? And how did I open the book, {{….]} and it was there where I opened it? This is such a wondrous thing, that it is impossible.. th.. more than all the wonders It is not only a wonder that it was, the Petek is present, it {brings about effects} constantly, it does not cease, yes, "Na Nach"—the whole world can sing and say and utter "Na Nach" There was in America.. [..] There was a Black woman, a Black woman, who was a member of the UN, of the UN, because.. So she wanted to see her son, her son, she was divorced, and.. And her son wanted to see him, and it was not possible, there was no possibility; so they told her to say "Na Nach," so she said it—it was in the newspaper in America—she said "Na Nach," he, he, and he came the next day, the day after that he came… ...It is possible to understand that the holy Rabbainu reveals th.. there is in the Zohar and in "Likutay Moharan": That there is a song that will bring the whole world back to Hashem Yisbarach, to the Torah, through this song So Rabbainu reveals that this is the song, "Na Nach Nachma Nachman"—this is a s.. song This song is 'simple, double, triple, quadruple' 'N' is simple 'Nach' double 'Nachm' [Triple] Triple 'Nachman' quadruple And it also has ten letters, "Na Nach Nachma Nachman" This is ten letters, corresponding to the ten types of melody, which he revealed that this is effective for rectifying the blemish of the Covenant

This is the "Tikkun Haklali," ten types of melody... ...Yes, yes, yes, we see, we see now th.. that it brings about effects He, he, he has become famous throughout the whole world, {especially among} the gentiles "Rebbe Nachman of Breslov,” the whole {world} oy.. Also what he said two hundred years ago: "My fire will burn until the coming of Mashiach" And he reveals in.. in the Petek, what I said.. ["About you, about you I said"] That "My fire will burn until the coming of Mashiach," this is "I said about you," {yes} That is how it is written in the Petek [“About you"] {Yes} [About Saba] He also reveals that he is this song, this song, 'simple, double, triple, quadruple'—this is I myself 'Nachman MeUman,' MeUman—which Nachman? - MeUman! He is this song, 'simple, double, triple, quadruple' [Baruch Hashem, Baruch Hashem] And this piece of paper, what is it? From what, from where did it come? There were, there are some people who ask: "Did it descend from Heaven?" The Petek—what, what color was the thread on which it, it {descended in this}, what color?” It has all the colors; this is such a wonder that there had never been such a thing in the world He did not, he, he had already passed away {a hundred years before}, and he speaks with me "My precious student," yes, yes, together with the letter, yes "About you I said," "I derived great pleasure from your service, and about you I said," nu, "Be strong and courageous in your service" Ber, who, who, who says this? "Na Nach.. Nachman MeUman" This is the melody of 'simple, double, triple, quadruple,' yes In the ten letters of the name "Na Nach," "Na Nach Nachma Nachman" is ten letters, ten Letters—this corresponds to the ten types of melody that he revealed for rectification of the Covenant

"The General Remedy" Ten, ten kinds of melody, ten chapters of Psalms Nu, are signs needed beyond this? "And a sign.." [They will say] "The seventeenth of Tammuz they will say"… ...{I}, do I know? That is what is written, {that is what..} [That is what is written] [In 5750 they will no longer need any more signs] {}, the seventeenth of Tammuz, no one knew any.. did not know.. [No one] Only I alone knew of this, and I had great anguish; I could have, could have died from the magnitude of the anguish, yes Then he came to me, "my dear student", you want, you will die? No, no, you are "my dear student” "Concerning you I said, my little fire will smolder until Mashiach comes" {You will live long, do not}.., do not be afraid ["To tell you"] "Be strong and courageous in your service" "This stumbling is under your hand" Precisely this—through, through my not fasting, a stumbling; this is a great stumbling block; through it the Petek came into being Were it not for this, there would not have been the Petek "And a sign: the seventeenth of Tammuz they will say that you are not fasting" {Yes} Do not think this is just paper, "a sign”; he gave me a sign, "the seventeenth of Tammuz" […...] They all thought that I had gone out of my mind, I had become crazy, and they said: "That is how he is, all, all the Breslover Chassidim—in the end he becomes crazy!" "What is this? Suddenly he became crazy; because he had been in sadness, and afterward he was in such joy What is this? This is not a normal thing, he is such a madman, yes..” […..] "For which he has no cure, to get out of it..” Then the yeshiva boys came into town, and each one related it in his synagogue: "The Breslover became crazy" "What, what? How do you know?" "He had been in such sadness that it was frightening to look at him, and afterward suddenly he became, became in such joy, and he was dancing all, all night he was dancing—what is this? This, this is not, not, not, this is not normal", yes, then I received the name 'madman'

And Rav Mottel, Rav Mottel of Slonim, he was.. I was his neighbor, then, and he loved me very much Even though he was an opponent, but he loved me very much He heard about this, that I had become crazy, so he was very worried "Oy, such a disaster, he became crazy?" He, then he said, he would go see, see what, what, what what {they are saying, what is with me} Then he came and spoke with me; he was afraid that perhaps I would hit him, that a crazy man can also hit… So he came and he speaks with me and asked me a question, I have a question: "Everyone says that you became crazy, and I had great anguish; I see that you are not crazy What is this, what was this sadness and joy? What is this?" I told him the story of the seventeenth of Tammuz and showed him the Petek He had been such an opponent that it was frightening; I do not want to speak of what he, what he said Then he nullified the opposition "If so? Yisroel Ber has a Petek? He has a letter from Rebbe Nachman? I nullify the, all the opposition" Then he.. [He nullified all the opposition?] Yes, he became a Rebbe in Yerushalayim [Afterward] Yes, after this, then he said: "I already, whether you want, do not want, whatever you want, do whatever you want I do not.., I nullified the opposition to Breslov" "What is there?" "He received a letter from Rebbe Nachman!" Then they all said: "Oh, yes, from a letter one becomes so happy? There will be.., we will make many letters" {Ah, until he received} Then I found letters in all my books, yes, yes They saw that this, this—there is no joy and there is no sadness Oy, oy, oy Nu, it is the eve of the Festival; you need to get home…

..."To tell you" [“To tell..”] It is not, "to inform, to inform you" [Yes] "To reveal to you" [Yes, why is it written "to tell you"?] What is "to tell"? [Nu, what is "to tell”?] We sit and talk like this—"to tell"? No, "to tell", 'to tell' has the meaning of face to face We sit and talk, {..}, and.. {{and I th..}, "to tell you"… ...What to tell? Two things "I derived much pleasure from your service" "And concerning you I said" These are two things, so "be strong and courageous in your service" Afterward he.. do you know who says this? "Na NaCh Na ChaM.." "And a sign..", so that you should not have, ah […] {Again the.. this}, this thing {{They .}} "The seventeenth of Tammuz" [“They will say”] Do you know what happened on the seventeenth.., on the seventeenth of Tammuz? "They will say that there will not be.., th.. that you are not fasting"—a sign th.. that only I knew… ...There will be a time when the whole world will sing "Na NaCh", yes In all the marketplaces, in every, every place, wherever one goes, with a melody, with "Na NaCh" Because all the melodies are good with "Na NaCh", all the melodies in the world [Yes]... ...That we cannot live or eat, a.. how can we rest and sleep? [Yes] In anguish, amid such troubles of the Jewish people [Ah, ah, pshh..] Nu, this, I saw... ...That we speak of Rabbainu the holy, Rebbe Nassan, and all kinds of praises that we may say It still does not reach a drop from the sea of their greatness, yes Rebbe, Rebbe Nassan said this, and I say only the words of Rebbe Nassan, yes But Rebbe Yisroel {he warned me, Rabbainu's men} {{…..}}, one must speak of them, but not everything; everything {is} only Rabbainu He {{….}}, he rose above everything, yes, the main thing is Rabbainu

Ah, if only there were truth in the world, among our people, and.. And they would speak of this and publicize Rabbainu's name, what Rabbainu is The redemption would already have come, the world would already be drawing close to Rabbainu But falsehood, it, it, it separates and blinds, blinds {his eyes}, falsehood, yes But Hashem, blessed be He—we are forbidden to question Hashem, blessed be He, yes A time will yet come, yes, it will come, {Rebbe Nachman revealed\the redemption is already prepared} it will come The time will come when He will remove falsehood from the world and reveal, and the truth will be revealed, yes Only we need to believe and strengthen ourselves in prayer, to pray Like this, with the.., to speak with Hashem, blessed be He, with the lips Or to study from a book, or to say "Likutey Tefilos" with the lips, what is written in the book, to say it with the lips, yes, without any {{Levi Y.., ….}} pay attention to me, yes, this I say "Blessed are You, Hashem..", like a convert, yes, yes… ...[Saba and the friends sing: "Na NaCh NaChMa NaChMaN MeUman"]… ...Until I got rid of this, until I merited understanding that it is falsehood—Karlin too, and all of them Yes, but I was happy with my portion, that I merited {to.. blessed is Hashem}, to make known, to see and to understand And to grasp that this is falsehood and this is truth, {yes} Against the whole world, "and it was reversed", yes I, I {I was then like this}: "Oy, who are you? What, what? What do you know? What do you understand?" No.. Hashem, blessed be He, contracts Himself; Yisroel Ber too, yes I merited feeling and seeing and understanding that this is truth and this is falsehood, {yes} this.. This was at a time when the whole world was immersed in the falsehood, in Rebbes And I merited seeing the opposite of everyone, yes And it did not, did not, did not influence me; they are many and they are great in Torah, "What? Who am I? What are you?” yes

No, the truth is strong; it is such a very mighty warrior that there is none like it Every utterance that I heard from Rabbainu’s men, Rebbe, Rebbe Nassan, Rebbe Nassan, Gittele’s husband, after Rebbe Yisroel His simplicity, his truth, his speech, his face, his speech I saw that all of them are, {they do not have\he has no} anything, with, with their Torah, with everything This, this, Rebbe Nassan—this, this is one who serves Hashem, {…} This was a miracle from Hashem Yisbarach, beyond nature; it is impossible to understand I was born among them, and I knew that this was fear of Heaven; they all had a name of falsehood That they {fear Hashem}, that they, yes But Hashem Yisbarach gave me wisdom and intelligence, and I discerned and knew and saw and understood the truth, yes {No}, this, were it not for the controversy, were it not for the opposition, I would not have known of Rabbainu.., of anything It was precisely, precisely this that drew me close, yes These were good gifts, “I brought you a gift from Eretz Yisroel, ‘controversy’” It was such a gift that there is none in the world; now give all, all the money in the world—I want, I want.. yes No, the time has passed But even today Mashiach has not yet come, the truth is not so much, yes But the world is beginning, beginning to.. to hear and understand {…} of Rabbainu, Rebbe Nachman, {. .} Rebbe Nachman, yes; throughout all the days of my life they were, were, were afraid, afraid to touch a Breslov book And now Breslov books can be bought everywhere, nu.. I had questions about Hashem Yisbarach: why.. the truth, if the truth had been revealed, there would already have been A world, a rectified world; when will this be? How is it possible that there will be, there will be the redemption? How is it possible? So now I see, from eighty years ago until now, I see such a power

That the world, they draw themselves to Rabbainu; it would have been fitting for the whole world to distance itself from Breslov Because all the great ones were, were opponents, {..were}, yes It became a wonder, such a wonder; so the holy Rabbainu said: “I brought you a gift from Eretz Yisroel, ‘controversy’” All, the world {li.., he informs us th..} the whole world will oppose {him} And then whoever draws close {to me} will be among my people {Yes}, what Oy, what they suffered, they suffered for the generations.., in these generations; they prepared for Mashiach Rabbainu’s men and Rabbainu’s books—every utterance, every utterance and every.. But falsehood, this falsehood, it, it blinds the eyes, blinds the eyes, yes And they do not {kn.., know and do not hear}, and they profane and disgrace the.. the.. the.. truth {always} But Rabbainu already made known, when he entered Uman he said to Rebbe Nassan: “Nevertheless Hashem Yisbarach, Hashem Yisbarach always finishes according to His will” Oy, oy, there was such a Rebbe and student, {unique in the world}, since the day the world was created A stud.., such a Rebbe and such a student, and also all of Rabbainu’s students, what this is, what this is Oy, Baruch Hashem, I was crushed and broken {and in sub.., and I submitted, and in submission, yes..} But the heart inside was, the truth was burning like a blazing fire, yes… ...[Saba and Sharon Tal-Tzur sing: “Na Nach Nachma Nachman MeUman”]…