...{..} the state is a Jew, Jews, what, what are they, {..}, what are they saying? [But the state now is.. They think that peace, with peace there will be a lot of money for the Land of Israel] Huh? Yes? [Yes, for this, for them they think like this, if there is peace, there will be a lot of money] Yes? [Negotiations with Arabs and with the whole world, like this, they think like this And because of this they are prepared to.. do many things for the Arabs] And the state does not want, the Jews do not want [Uh.. many religious Jews do not want it, but many, many Jews in the Land of Israel are not so religious, they want it like this, they want negotiations, they want money, they think this is peace, like this] [Rebbe Yisroel..]… ...[Is holding a demonstration something good or not?] I do not know, I do not know [But what, what can we do against this? What, uh.. what, what can be done?] {….} Against the government nothing can be done [No?] Certainly, they are strong [Yes, certainly they are strong, even the Americans, they, they told the government One must be very careful about the.. about the religious Jews] Yes? [Yes, because they know that the religious Jews are {against} peace, this peace, they do not want it] {..}, they? [They are against, against it, they, they know it The religious Jews do not want to give t.. anything to the Arabs, anything] Nu, and what will the government say? [There is money, there is a lot of money for them, they think that peace will give the Land of Israel a lot, a lot of money, negotiations with the whole world, with all the Arabs, that is how they think] Did David go? [Yes, Rebbe Yisroel, yes] He went {..}.. [Yes, yes, he went]

To Tzipora [Yes.. nothing can be done against the government?] {{. .}}, they are very strong, {..} they have money and they have weapons and they have an army May Hashem have mercy on us [...] [David is going now, now he is going] He, David is going now? [Yes, yes, yes] To bring Tzipora [Yes] Good [But, Rebbe Yisroel, can one say that it is the will of the Holy One, blessed be He, that it is like this?] I do not know We believe that the world belongs to the Holy One, blessed be He [Yes] Nu, we are Jews {. .} and believe in the Torah [Yes] Nu, {..} {Uh.. yes...} Hashem, blessed be He, {{…}} will intervene and give them blows, to the gentiles, {{. .}} [And now the.. many religious Jews say, say that this government, it is not a government of Jews] Yes [That is what they say, because they, they do not understand so well how a Jew can give so much to the Arabs; this is what they think, it is not a government of Jews, that is what they say] Ah, {..}… ...[Many Jews in the Land of Israel want to see the Land of Israel like America With a lot of money, with a lot of negotiations, they want it like this]… ...[I am going now, I am leaving now] {..}.., you are going now? [Yes, yes, now] What, what time is it? [Uh, one.., eleven, eleven] Ah, ah, good, {..}… ...{The Redemption}, uh.. [Regarding the matter of Moshiach, many people thought that Moshiach was the.. rabbi of New York] Huh? [The.. the.. rabbi..] Moshiach? [Many people thought that Moshiach was the rabbi of Lubavitch] Was? [The rabbi, the rabbi of Lubavitch] [Donkey] Yes? [Yes, but now he, he passed away]

Huh? Now? [He passed away] Huh? [He, he passed away] He passed away [Yes, and now many people think that even though he passed away, he is also Moshiach] Yes? [Yes] {..}, may the Merciful One save us, nu, nu, Hashem, blessed be He, is, He is the Master of the house [Yes, and now they say like this, there are interpretations in the Torah, in.. holy books Where it is, one can understand this, that it is possible that even though he passed away, he is Moshiach, and one must wait and..] {..}… ...Everything [Everything will be good] Ah, and what do you do, {{Ami}}, for a livelihood?… ...[Yes, certainly, whenever you want] You, now {..} I can go with you [Yes, no problem.. only my wife is still in the hospital for another two days, and afterward she returns] {…} She is giving birth? [Yes, yes] What? [She is in the hospital for another two days, with Hashem's help, but you can come] What did she give birth to? [She had a g.., a girl] A girl [Yes] A daughter [Yes, a daughter] {..}, nu, may you merit to raise her to Torah, to the wedding canopy, and to good deeds, {..} and length of days and good years [Amen] Uh.. Sit, what, why are you standing? Oh, {azoy} (like this) How many children do you have? [Uh, seven, blessed is Hashem] {May Hashem give them} length of days and {good} years and all.., and all good [Amen] And all the salvations [Amen, amen] And may you see much nachas from them [Amen] What do you have, males, females? [Uh.. the.. four sons and three daughters] Ah, ah.. [Blessed is Hashem, a great gift from the Holy One, blessed be He] And where is the wife from? From where, from which country? [F.. from Algeria] Huh? [Algeria] Algeria? [Yes] . The parents? Do you live together with the parents? [Uh.. my parents?]

Yo [No, because they are only here for a few weeks] For? [A few weeks, for a month] At your place? [Yes, and afterward they return t.. to France] Yes? [Yes] Are they religious? [Uh.. so-so, so-so, my father has many problems with his memory] With {the memory}? [Yes, he, he is very ill] Yes? [Yes, he has a serious illness..] {..} [Very serious] Huh? [He has a very serious illness] What illness? [It is.. all the time he, he does not, he forgets everything] Yes? [Yes, it, it is in the head, the brai..] Ah [With time it does not work, God forbid] Does not work? [No] What does he work at? [What, what, what, what does he work at? He does not work now, he..] Yes [He cannot, all the time he forgets, he forgets, he forgets everything] Ah, and the mother? [For her it is very difficult, for life it is very difficult {Yes} [And the doctors..] {..}.. The mother lives together with you, no? [Yes, now, yes, but afterward they travel t.., they return to France] Yes? [Yes] Why? [I do not know] {..} [All the time I say t.. to them, this, the Land of Israel is a country of medicine] Yes [But.. I do not know why they are returning] But can I stay at your place? [Yes, yes, yes] Where do the children study? [They are in a Talmud Torah] Yes? [Yes, it is a little Lithuanian, they..] Lithuanians [Yes, but good, difficult, it is difficult to find a Talmud Torah for our children, very difficult; generally they do not, they do not want to take our children] They do not want? [To take our children] Who? [The Talmud Torah] Yes? [Yes] Why?

[Ah, because they se.., they see that this, that they are in Breslov Chassidus..]… ...[And..] {..} They don't.. [Not so much] {{...}}, are they Litvaks? [Yes, for them the matter of prayer is not so important, only learning, learning, only learning And this too is a problem for us, it is a problem for the children] Yes.. Do the children sleep in the 'rooms'? [Ah, no, no, no, they are in.., they.. in the evening they are at home] Ah? [They return home in the evening] Ah [Afterward they, they tr.., they travel ev.. every day]... ...[Today is Thursday, the sixth of Av 5754, in Yerushalayim at David Boudra's, Givat Mordechai]... ...(Saba laughs) {Sit close, closer …} [Was Rabbi Shmuel Horowitz, was……..?] Oy vey, weak, cannot speak, cannot move a limb Give me something to eat, to drink [Rebbe Yisroel, Rebbe Yisroel, he asked whether Rabbi Shmuel Horowitz was together with you?] David? [He is asking whether, whether Rabbi Shmuel Horowitz was together with you in Tzfas?] {Yes} [He is asking] {..} [Did you know Rabbi Shaya Horowitz?] [..] [Did you know Rabbi Shaya..] I brought {..} Shmuel Horowitz close, I brought him close to Rabbainu He was a Chabadnik, his father was a Chabadnik, and father {of mine ...}, he is from a Chabad family, yes And the.. and the father wrote to his mother, ah.. {{that she should, . .}} That she should do everything s.. s.. so that he would not be Breslov And she {{. .}} and cried: "Oy vey, my son became Breslov" Oy.. {...}, does Breslov not need to eat? {Breslov} You are a grandfather, he is a grandfather, who, who is the grandfather? [This is the grandson] He is a grandfather [The grandson, the grandson] [{}] {..} and it is written.. [{…….}]

In "Chayei Moharan," Rabbainu the holy one said: "W.. why did they give him the name "Shpola, Shpola Zeide"?” Why? "Shpo.., Shpola Zeide" Then Rabbainu says: "{..} Zeide, that is the father of fathers; a father is the.. is the father of impurity, and a grandfather is the father of the fathers of impurity He, he is the father of fathers" Because of this they call him the "Zeide of Shpola," "Shpola Zeide," {..} […….] {..} Rabbainu the holy one was in.. and in.. in..Uman at the time of the dispute He, he said to him, he was {...} young, {. .} and he was a {..} grandfather Then Rabbainu the holy one said to him: "You are disputing me" Then he said: "Chas v'shalom, I am already old, old I {..}, I would make a {dis..}.., dispute against you? What are you saying?" {. .}, then Rabbainu.., he took two fingers from Rabbainu's fingers, and put them in his mouth and said to him: "I am already old, I no longer have teeth in my mouth; I would dispute you?" Then Rabbainu the holy one said: "{He}, Hashem Yisbarach performed miracles for him, that beforehand, before, before he.. inserted the fingers in.. into the mouth, into his mouth," Rabbainu, of blessed memory, said: "That he has miracles, {{that…}} he did not have teeth; if he had teeth he would have, would have bitten {the teeth}" Nu, is there something to eat, to drink {..} or not? [..Yes, what..] Not yet? [What do you want to eat? Rebbe Yisroel, what do you want to eat? Rebbe Yisroel] Ah, {..}.. perhaps fish, fish with, with, with, with a roll Put a little oil in this, a little {..} It was, his name was "Shpola Zeide," that is how he had the name Then Rabbainu the holy one, he said {{...}}: "That they called him "Shpola Zeide," because a father is the father of impurity, and Zeide is the father of the fathers of impurity"

{The Zeide} He disputed Rabbainu, he is the "father of fathers," not "fathers," he is {the father of..}.., "the father of fathers" {Uh..}, Blessed are You, Hashem, {our God, King of the universe,} Who creates various kinds of nourishment [Amen]… ...{…}… ...{…} [Did you know Rabbi Eliezer Shlomo Schick?] Their Rebbe was.. [No..] His name was Shmuel.. [Shlomo] Shmuel [Shlomo, did you know Shlomo? Shlomo] Ah? [Did you know Rabbi Eliezer Shlomo?] Nu, where is the egg? [He is bringing it already] {This} is not [This, this, this is a roll] [……..]… ...{...} [I too, I too, with Hashem's help, am not traveling] [This, this is real news] Ah? [This is real news] {..}, the trips.. [New..] To Uman for Rosh Hashanah? [No, no, in Yerushalayim] In Yerushalayim, nu, nu.. {..} [.…………………………]... ...[………….…………………] ...[Shalom, Rebbe Yisroel] Is there news? [I don't know] Don't know, you also don't know? [Don't know] {….}, {..}, only you [Yes] [What news?] [..………] [...…..…] {..this..} […………..….] [………...……]… ...Take a chair [Thank you]… ...[Saba, can you bless me?]… ...To the whole world, that there is Uman in the world [Th.. th..?] [Uman in the world] [There will be Uman] [Uman] [There will be Uman in.. the world] They will come from the entire world to Uman [I am traveling to Uman, baruch Hashem] [About what is he….]… ...[You once said that..] Airplanes… ...Many will come to Uman on the eve of Rosh Hashanah, there will be, oh, oh.. [..] There will be joy throughout the world, {there is Uman, I have .…, ah.. ah..} "Uman, there is Uman in the world"… ...They will come from America, and from the entire world they will come to Uman…

...Zionists "What, what, what? Where to travel?" [………] [……...]… ...{The.. will arrive, … ah}, they will arrive at U.., at Uman, the.. {..} the.. {what will there be?} the.. the.. {..} [The airplanes] {..} the.. the flying ones [The airplanes] {full\what is this?} [The airplanes] The airplanes, yes, {…}, all day they will come… ...{We will reveal} to all the heretics, to all the Zionists: "That there is Uman in the world"… ...From England and from all, fr.. from the entire world, all day the airplanes will come… ...{….. , ah}… ...The Master of the World, He {..} proclaims and announces to the entire world: "That there is Uman in the world" {..}… ..."Uman in the world, there is Uman in the world, {..} What do you think?"… ...{All} the airplanes from England and from Russia and fr.. from Atalia, from all the places the.. all of them will come to Uman [And also from Israel, and also from Eretz Yisroel] {..}… ...{…}... ...Ah? [Who will pay?] {{Who will pa.., ah, who…}}, whoever will pay will pay, will pay, it is free There and back {..} for free… ...Uman, for everyone there and back… ...[Even with money, I am prepared to pay] Yes [..Such a gift has never existed in the world] {..} [It is a gift] Ah, money is nothing, the main thing is Uman… ...To announce to all the Zionists: "That there is Uman in the world" So that they will know that there is Uman in the world [Pshh..] Who..? They can travel there and back for free.. to Uman Who will pay? I.., we do not know… ...Zionists w.. will make, ah.. will make, the.. what will they make? They will make.. [….] [Demonstrations?] Ah? [Demonstrations? Demonstrations? Demonstra?] Demonstrations? {……….}… ...{….}… ...[….]... ...[The friends sing: "Na Naḥ Naḥma Naḥman MeUman.."]

[Goodbye, Saba] {…} [The friends continue singing: “Na Na Nach Nachma Nachman MeUman..”{{36:47]}] All the airplanes w.. will arrive in Uman [What?] [Airplanes……..] All the airplanes from all over the world will come to Uman [……..] [….….] [The friends continue singing: “Na Na Nach Nachma Nachman MeUman..”] Who are the Zionists? I have no need for them, they can go and travel {{away from me}} wherever they want, {yes} Everyone will come to me All the airplanes and all the rich people, all the money, will come to Uman [……….] [……….] [Saba, who are the Zionists? Who are the Zionists? Who is the Zionists?] The Zionists? Th.. who do not want {to hear\to keep} the Torah [….] They do not want to accept the Torah {Th..} they will go.. They will go to the gentiles [The friends continue singing: “Na Na Nach Nachma Nachman MeUman..”] To Uman, there and back…