...{that he.. can ….}, and how can he reach Rebbe Yisroel (Kardonner)? {…}, there was only one way, one way for this On Thursday night he would go to.. to.. the ‘Slonim Chassidim,’ yes And.. so he decided: “I will go to Rebbe Yisroel (Kardonner) on Thursday night and no one will know… ...[This is not all right]… ...Oy, oy, oy, oy [Yes] Ah.. about the incident with Reb Hirsh Litvak I, and.. and.. I have more details that I remembered, that this.., that transpired in this matter Can I, can I speak Yiddish? [Yes, speak Yiddish, {..}..] Do you understand? [Yes, I understand, just speak well, clearly] {…} [Oh.. oh. Wait, wait, this is not good]… ...[{..}, it is working] {And this}, about this, about this story with Reb Hirsh Litvak, so.. so.. What I recorded regarding drawing close, there are only main points [..] He was a Jew, Reb Hirsh Litvak, but there are in this such {.. …..}, such, such.. Oy vey.. oy vey.. oy vey.. {…} [Nu, what other news is there?] This Reb Hirsh Litvak, th.. in short He was “one” in Teveria, he was the great one.., everyone esteemed him, the whole city, a ‘small city,’ and he was.., they called him, his name was, “Reb Hirsh Litvak” You—a Jew who is a Litvak (Lithuanian)—laughs at.. at Chassidim, {with} stories, with.., {from this} In any case, they esteemed him very much He studied a lot, {..}, he studied the “Reishis Chochmah” He knew the “Reishis Chochmah” by heart And he.. and.. and he not only studied the “Reishis Chochmah,” he would fulfill what.., what he studied He, he, he sought, he.., he yearned The principle is: I was.., he studied with me; afterward, when I reached Rebbe Yisroel (Kardonner)

I left all the rabbis, and Reb Hirsh as well There was a great bond between us.., a bond with l.., with love, such a love, true love We were friends even though he.., there was a great distance from him to me, there was a great distance So I.. {…}, he saw what I was suffering from this {..}, this is not Yerushalayim, it is a small city, everyone, everyone, everyone knew So.. everyone wondered how a person could “bear” such kinds of troubles Such kinds of humiliations, such kinds of troubles And this Reb Hirsh—so specifically from this opposition, it entered his heart that here there is a great thing That this is.. a.. a.. above Chassidus Nu, I did not know what he had.., in his heart, do I know? But I was with him with, with a {..} great bond, with love, like, like o.., one, one soul So I said to him {..}, to the friend, I said to him: “Reb Hirsh, you will go in to Rebbe Yisroel (Kardonner), and he will study a teaching in ‘Likutay Moharan’ with you It will become known to you such.., such things, that you, that you know, what, what.. You have never yet tasted such a taste” Nu, he, he had it in his heart, that is how it was, and I say to him, nu, so how does he go in to Rebbe Yisroel (Kardonner)? So, so, so, when I suffer such troubles, {..}, he can endure such {troubles} Ah.. “Tell, tell, tell—what way does one make to go in to Rebbe Yisroel (Kardonner)?” And Rebbe Yisroel (Kardonner) lived beside the ‘shuls’ (synagogues), beside the Karlin one, beside the Slonim one His house was beside all the ‘shuls’ Nu, he, he, he cannot go in to Rebbe Yisroel (Kardonner) He arrived {…} at.. at a plan: he goes on Thursday night to the Slonim one Nu, how, how much distance is there from Slonim to.. to Rebbe Yisroel (Kardonner)?—A few steps!

From Rebbe Yisroel’s house to the Slunimers So instead of going to the Slunimers, he would go in to Rebbe Yisroel, and it was at night, Thursday night, who would know? That was very good The point is: several weeks passed with him being with Rebbe Yisroel; Rebbe Yisroel taught him And s.., and.. and told him ab.. about Rabbainu, {..}.. ab.. about the secret of our holy Rabbainu So he decided: “I will be the second ‘Yisroel Ber,’ the second "madman," I will be.. I will be.. I.., I want to be a ‘Breslover Chassid,’ but how? How?” Nu, he went to Rebbe Yisroel for several weeks, and the Slunimers saw {..}: This Litvak, Rav Hirsch Litvak, h.., he stopped coming on Thursday nights They asked his father-in-law i.. in the shul, they asked.., they asked him: Where? Where? In some place? What is your son-in-law Rav Hirsch Litvak doing? He does not come to us on Thursday nights” So he said: “I do not know, I will ask, I will ask at home, what is this? Why, why does he not go?” He asked at home — “Oy vey.." “He goes every.., he does not miss any Thursday night, he goes every Thursday night! He does not go?” So a suspicion fell upon them: “Maybe he goes.., Rebbe Yisroel’s house is not far from the Slunimers He goes in.., he goes to Rebbe Yisroel" {..}, the point is, he told them: The wife said this — "that he goes every Thursday night"..” So a suspicion entered them: “This Rav Hirsch has become a ‘Breslover Chassid,’ he goes to Rebbe Yisroel" Th.., they had him, they had him followed, and they watched him and caught him, caught him going in to Rebbe Yisroel Nu, nu, there was an uproar, there was an uproar among the Slunimers, and by them it was always {…}

His father-in-law and his mother-in-law: “What did you learn from Yisroel Ber, you will become Breslov? We will not tolerate this, under no circumstances!” The point is, he, he decided: {so it will be}.., he would endure what, what they would do to him But he saw that he was suffering so much, that he could not "bear" it So he said: “I also want to be a ‘Breslover Chassid’" So Rebbe Yisroel told him: “Here in Teveria you can.., you cannot, {..}, you need to travel to Yerushalayim In Yerushalayim there are precious Jews, the Chass.., precious, precious Jews, so.. travel to Yerushalayim Receive from Rav Shlomo Wexler, fr.. from others" Nu, so he went from Teveria to Yerushalayim on foot He was a mighty man, a great mighty man, he could.., he could walk.. Even throughout all the years he could walk on foot Nu, so he.., it was Friday Friday, he took a tallis and tefillin and went to pray, and did not arrive home Nu, at home {..}, he did not arrive for a day, two days, he was not there Presumably ,perhaps, perhaps he is learning in the shul, perhaps.., he will arrive later It passed, it became half the day and h.., and.. and Rav Hirsch was not here “They descended upon me,” upon me into the house: “Tell us, where is Rav Hirsch’eh?” “Maybe, I do not know, what does that mean? Am I, am I some.., the keeper of Rav Hirsch?” {..} The point is: then they, they went, they sent to his family, his family in Tzfas They thought perhaps.. there had been a dispute at home, b.., why, why, why, he wants to be Breslov, there became.. fire.. a dispute, fire “Uh.. perhaps he traveled to Tzfas, to the family" They sent at midday, on Friday they sent a man with a horse to Tzfas So that he should notify them, uh.. that he should bring him, {…}

It did not enter their minds that he went to Yerushalayim, uh.. if he went, he went to Tzfas They arrived in Tzfas, he.., he was not there, not there in Tzfas He was not in any {place} After that they came to him, {..}, nu, they came to me and to Rebbe Yisroel: “Where is Rav Hirsch? What did you do? Where is Rav Hirsch? You made the woman a widow, and the children orphans! Nu, in what, in what place is Rav Hirsch?” The point is: they went—there was a mukhtar in Teveria, whatever he was, the entire government was him And.. he took bribes, {…}, and gave bribes, and th.., all the government officials They were.., Mordechai was their "crown" The point is: {…}, so they went to him, to Mordechai, and.. gave him money; they told him the story: “So.. so.. he became.., he wants to be Breslov, became Breslov And.. and.. and.. on Friday he wanted to pray and did not return The Breslovers do such things, they take the father, th.. the father away from the children {….}.. with this, Friday!.. and.. {..}” {The point is}: this, this, this mukhtar saw that this was "good business" He.. he made a complaint, and.. he made a complaint At that time it was wartime He made th.., such a th.. th.. complaint, and.. Shabbos morning I stand up to pray A policeman arrives and he takes me to prison [Shabbos morning?] Shabbos morning Yes, Friday, Friday he.., Rav Hirsch was missing, his wife and the family arrived They threw stones, broke the door of the house [At Rebbe Yisroel’s, at Rebbe Yisroel Kardonner’s?] In Rebbe Yisroel’s house, yes, {..}, such stones, {vos iz dos?} There were small children, they threw at the children, and.. and at the house, {..}

They threw stones one after another The point is: they broke his water {hinternshan}; at that time there were no {konten} The water {hinternshan}, they broke his {hinternshan} They broke all the utensils of the house with the stones, and Rebbe Yisroel did not {…}.. “Where is Rav Hirsch” Shabbos morning they took me to prison In prison.. {…} about to arrive, this.. this.. [An officer] The officer; they brought me in with policemen “You must say, where is he, Rav Hirsch? Where, where, where? In what place is Rav Hirsch? If you do not tell.. the truth! If you do not tell the truth, then, then {..} We will give you such, uh.. {klap}, such blows, that you will not be able to bear" They took me, {..}, put me on the ground, raised my legs They tied the legs with, {..} a large stick A policeman stood on this side, and a policeman on that side, and my legs were up.. So they would give the legs such.. so.. so he would not get up I saw, so I.. saw the policemen with, with the sticks, with, with, {with this kind} the point is, I said: “{Amzol}, perhaps he traveled to Yerushalayim" They say: No! Not perhaps! He went—you must say! The point is: we will send you..” “Perhaps he traveled to Yerushalayim, I am not.., I am not informed, I do not know, but it is {perhaps}” They sent, they sent on Shabbos to look for him, to look for him i.. on th.. in the settlements.. [Shabbos?] Yes, as far, as far as Afula The point is: late at night they found him i.. i..{..}, in a settlement, not far fr.. Fr.. fr.. from Afula, fr.. from Haifa They found him, and he did not want to go, {…}, he was stronger than he was So he told him that I was confined in prison and Rebbe Yisroel would also be in prison

If he does not arrive.. {…} we will suffer such.. The point is: {..{}, they brought him, late at night they brought him {the story} Late at night they brought him, when they brought him.. [Pshh..] The.. my family went, my family went to this mukhtar: “{..}, Rav Hir.., Rav Hirsch is already here, permit Yisroel Ber to leave the prison And if they take him into the army, if they take him then..” It was Tur.., there were Turks “If they take him into the army, they know that he.., will no longer return alive They do not give food, they do not give clothing, they cause suffering, and from hunger, and they die {..}, he must be gotten out” The point is: my family go to Mordechai, and he says: “Good, I hear, they will release him, I will see how to release him But at night they do not permit release from prison, it is a law!” We wanted it to be as soon as possible, so they gave him money [Who was this Mordechai?] Mordechai.., Mordechai the mukhtar [Mo.., “Mordechai the mukhtar,” a Jew?] A Jew, {..} [Ah.. he was the mukhtar] He was was the mukhtar, and.. {..}, he was an informer, for money he did {such a … deed} [Yes, I understand] {Ah} In any event, I left on Fri.., late at night And though they do not permit leaving the prison at night, he got me out, I left.. [Money, for money] Yes, and I was already not at home, I was afraid that perhaps they would take me to prison again They hid me, and I was in.. in.. in.. in.., the synagogue In the synagogue, then, Sunday, S.., Sunday, {..} it was late at night, and Sunday in the synagogue..

“Mincha,” they came to pray Mincha, they say, they say: “So Rebbe Yisroel punished Mordechai” They, M.. Mordechai, they put him in prison, Sunday, {…}.. [Mordechai the mukhtar?] Yes [And how?] They informed on him [Because he released you back?] {..} [Because he released you at night?] No, not because of that [Ah.. over another matter] No, they informed on him because, because he.. because he was a spy [Ah, yes] Yes, a sp.., spy Nu, ah.. in.. in the city they said that Mordechai would evade it, Mordechai.. {..} But he had no way to evade it, he had a trial, and they sent him to Istanbul, they sent him And still there, not upon us, there he passed away, in.. in.. in Istanbul After that, late at night (…..) ‘The story of Rav Hirsch Litvak’ [Oy vey, nu, and what happened with Rav Hirsch Litvak? What became of him?] W.. with Rav Hirsch Litvak? [Yes] Yes, late at night they brought him Nu, on Sunday they held a meeting.. in secret They brought the wife, and his father-in-law, and the family, with Rav Hirsch, and they made him understand, so.. “You are obligated to make a written document, that you are forbidden to speak with Rebbe Yisroel, and not with Yisroel Ber And you are forbidden to study Breslov books” Good, they made a written document, but, ah, but they ma.., but {..} They wanted from him, in addition to the document, that he give a “handshake pledge” So he gave a “handsh.. {..}”, he could not evade it, so he gave a “handshake pledge” and all the things—indeed I, indeed I, I studied in the yeshiva and he also studied in the yeshiva So he.. saw that there was no one in the courtyard, {..}, only I and he He stood far away, I, I stood on this, this path and he stood on this path

He did not turn his head toward me, only he spoke, spoke to the wall: “Yisroel Ber, I have to tell you some th.. thing, but I am forbidden, ah.. But go to the field, I will arrive, I will go out to you” I say: “Yes, yes, yes” I too spoke to the wall We went, not here, here, not here, not here, not here, so that no one would hear He is forbidden, forbidden to speak with me We went out to the field outside, outside, in the field outside, he arrives t.. tells the whole story: “So they made the meet.., the meeting, and the family, and the wife, with his father-in-law, and.. and made such a written document And.. {…}, and a handsh.., and a “handshake pledge” I say to him: “Rav Hirsch, what is this with you? Why did you give a handshake pledge? And why did you sign? What, what can they {..}? What can they do to you? Wh.. wh.. what.. what? Why did you act like this?” He says: “One who stipulates against what is written in the Torah—his stipulation is null For if someone swears, someone swears that he will give a “handshake pledge” not to put on tefillin Not to observe Shabbos, is it worth anything? {….}” I said: “{….}” The point is: I went in, ah.. I heard this from Rav Hirsch, what no one knew Because the opponents took care that it be without anyone knowing And if he, he.. {..} had not called me to go out to the field outside, and told me, I would not have known of it And during that week.. he passed away, passed away on Friday, Fri.., ah, ah.. Thursday night, Fri.., yo, Thursday night [That was on Sunday, and he passed away Thursday night?] Yes Such a strong man as Rav Hirsch, yes.. {..} We heard, on Tues.., Tuesday they heard that Rav Hirsch is sleeping, and the doctor, and.. and.. And there was a great doctor in Teveria, they brought the doctor, so he said:

“He has such a kind of illness..” He says: “Beyond hope, they cannot, they cannot do anything Th.. he.. he.. he.. he.. {..}, {he will not rise from this}” And.. nu, ah.. then the whole city went, the children from the Talmud Torah, from the yeshiva, midrash Ah.. I went to plead for Rav Hirsch, s.. such a kind, such, such, he is in such danger They went to plead “hafarfiren” (to arrange the situation), so his wife also arrived there And.. Rebbe Yisroel and I were also there, I said to Rebbe Yisroel: His wife.., Rav Hirsch's wife is also here, here” He says: “So, she is here? You go, you go there! To his father-in-law, to Rav Hirsch And tell them to tear up the written document! That they should tear up the written document” I.. myself went immediately, she was there, {…}, I entered the house He, Rav Hirsch recognized me, he says: “Yisroel Ber, run away immediately! My wife will, you, you, {..}, kill you, you here” I say to him: “She, she is at the Rambam, she, she is at the graves of tzaddikim” He says: “So” Here, I speak to his father-in-law, and Rav Kehat was sitting, the one whom I made “dead,” this Rav Kehat also sat there; his father-in-law was a Karliner, and he too was a Karliner, they sat, they sat like brothers So he lies sleeping, poor man, such a young married man, {…} Then Rav Kehat said, then said.. to his father-in-law: “Tear up the written document! Let him live and let him be a Breslover, tear up the written document! Afterward, as things continue, we will see what to do, tear up the written document!” He says: “No, under no circumstances, I will not tear it up” It was.. ah.. ah.. Thurs.., Th.. Th.. Th.. Thursday night, Thursday Nu, o.. o.. that night he, he, he passed away

[And..] And I saw him that night, before I knew that he had passed away I saw him i.. in a dream, I, I had a dream: {..}, how I am walking in the street and Reb Hirsh comes toward me.., comes, comes, and approaches me and speaks with me I say: “Reb Hirsh, what are you doing? I am ready, but, but how are you doing such a thing? You are standing beside me, and if someone sees?” He says: “I decided, so whatever will be will be, {he}, I will not {part} from Rebbe Yisroel And not fr.., I will not {part} from him, and it will be.. and.. whatever will be will be” Nu, shoyn, I went to the mikveh, we undress in the mikveh, one beside the other We went down, we went down.., I was afraid, if someone comes and sees that Reb Hirsh is speaking with me We were, {….}, the two of us here in the mikveh I went down into the mikveh, as I want to enter i.. i.., into the mik.., I immerse I wake up, see that it is a dream, so I woke up, I woke up, I hear th.. th.. sounds of weeping; I went out to the street, outside, they told me that Reb Hirsh had already passed away [And this, this one of his.. this is the father-in-law who did not want to tear up the document, what was his name?] His father-in-law? [Yes] {..}, this is his father-in-law, what was his father-in-law called? [Yes] Zalman.. {they called him}, his name was “Zalman Glis” [“Zalman Glis”] Yes [Did he not have regrets about this? Did he not know that because of this he passed away?] I do not know, I.., {he..}, he was “straight” with them, {…} [After th.. incident, you did not speak with them? You did not see them?] With whom? With his father-in-law? [Yes] No, no They “turned” it around, they said: “Because he went to Yerushalayim, he walked so much with his legs, with this

So, so he passed away” Do I know? They can insert, they can insert anything, {he} [Ahh..] Yes, and I told, I—, I entered into the city {…} from the yeshiva I told Rebbe Yisroel what Reb Hirsh had told me So he.., so Rebbe Yisroel gave a sigh over this Such.. straight, like someone does on the head {vil paken kop}, yes, he gave a sigh [Sorrow] So I told him, that Reb Hirsh said: “One who stipulates against what is written in the Torah—his stipulation is null,” because of this he.. But, ah.. because of “sanctification of the Name,” he needed to uphold “sanctification of the Name,” he should not have submitted, yes [Could you not have gone and torn it up by force?] Who? [You] What are you talking about? {…} to the document? Could I get to the document? It was with, it was with his father-in-law.. would he show me the document? And do we know? And if Reb Hirsh had not told me, then to this day we would not have known of it [Understand] ‘The story of Reb Hirsh Litvak’… ...Something, I have {…} [When you were confined in prison, yes] {..}.. yes, Shabbos morning they put me into prison [Yes, Shabbos morning, into the prison] So my mother went to the ‘shuls,’ my mother.. I was by her.. s.. such.. So she went to the ‘shuls,’ she wept very much, she wept very much, they put me into prison; “an awakening” (un kropen) arose among the Slonimers, “an awakening,” one of th.., th.., the greatest of them [Mordechai?] {…………} [Was Mordechai not the greatest?] Which Mordechai? Mordechai the mukhtar? [No, what was his name? M..] Reb Mottel, Reb Mottel [Was Reb Mottel not the greatest?] . Reb Mottel, no, Reb Mottel, not Reb Mottel, someone else

One great one, very great, fr.. from the Chassidim [Yes] He said {…} [Is he alive?] {..}, no, he has already not been here for a long time, he passed away young, yes He.. {..}, she approached the Holy Ark, and she wept, she pleaded: “Jews, save him, they will take him into the army,” they knew, yes They said: “It is a mitzvah upon him, it is a mitzvah upon him, that he should not be a Breslover,” {…} And this Reb Hirsh, they also said, that I him, I had been his student and had been with him (oven dose) I dra.., I drew him t.. to Breslov “It is a mitzvah upon him” [“It is a mitzvah upon him”] Yes (Saba laughs)… ...{…}, Rebbe Yisroel too [Ah, you were taken to prison..] Yes [And they went to Rebbe Yisroel on Shabbos morning] They confined me, and went to Rebbe Yisroel [They confined you, and went on Shabbos morning to Rebbe Yisroel] A little later [Mordechai the mukhtar?] Mordechai the mukhtar, with a sold.., with.. [With a sold..] With a policeman [With a policeman] Yes And there.., Rebbe Yisroel's house was among.. all.., all the ‘shuls’ of Teveria Of the Sephardim, of the Poles [They also wanted to put him into prison?] Eh? [They went to put him into prison?] To take Rebbe Yisroel also to prison [Shabbos morning?] Yes [Besides you, Rebbe Yisroel too {…}] Yes, yes, Rebbe Yisroel and I But the law, they had a law among the Turks, the Turks had the name of a “savage man” There was a law.. so th.. today.., so th.. the ‘foreign,’ {..}, th.. [‘Foreign national’] ‘Foreign national,’ yes [There was a law of the ‘foreign national’] {…}, there was a law: that it was forbidden to enter his house If they found him in the street, they could take him to prison, but to take him out of the house, there was a law that it was forbidden

[There was] And Rebbe Yisroel was the nat.., the n.. [‘A national..’] Th.. th.. ‘foreign national’ [..] Fr.. fr.. Galicia, {..}.. They did not d.., th.. so, ah.. Mordechai the mukhtar with the policeman had.., they could not enter the house And Rebbe Yisroel at that time offered a prayer.., his prayer was always, he said.. But at that time.. he knew.., his family, and my family came to Rebbe Yisroel: “What are you doing? What have you done? You took this Reb Hirsh and Yisroel Ber {….} you did”.. {…} Nu, and he, and he, and he at that time, at that time offered such a prayer.. This Mordechai with a policeman at the house, {..}, i.. it was forbidden to enter the house, so he stood at the door, and now before the prayer, and there were among th.. th.. th.. th.. th.. maskilim, and among the Zionists, maskilim, {..}, they went to the ‘shul’ {la'amod klap pushte}, to pra.., also to pray; so they saw that there “stood” such a kind of uproar, such a kind of.., everyone, all those going to the ‘shul’ are standing beside Rebbe Yisroel's house, and the family is standing, and.. and.. shouting “Gevald,” such “Wh.., where is Reb Hirsh? And where is Yisroel Ber?” The point is: they stood beside, beside the policeman with Mordechai, and these fellows heard the prayer, the prayer entered into their hearts, so they said: “Mordechai..” [The Zionists] Yes, they were three fellows [Three Zionists] Three fellows, and all of them were th.. ‘great men of the city,’ ‘great men of the city,’ people were afraid of them; one had a station of, of flour, a “wealthy man” And one was a merchant.., the greatest timber merchant, “Leibel Neiberg,” Neiberg

And one was the ‘great one’ of the pharmacies in Teveria, the biggest pharmacy, “Sternberg” the biggest pharmacy in Teveria, this was a “household name,” yes These thre.., these three, nu, Mordechai was afraid, afraid of them They were “wealthy men,” and they, and.. and.. and.. and could do something, could do harm So, so they said: “{Find a way}, th.. that you should go” So he went, and did not “imprison” Rebbe Yisroel They went in to Rebbe Yisroel after the prayer; Rebbe Yisroel, they spoke with him: “What is this for us? And what? What are you..? What are you..? What is this here? An outcry in the city, such a gevaldig kind, with Reb Hirsh Litvak and Yisroel Ber?.. What is this here? What is this?” [What did he say to them?] The point is: {..} he.. he.. he said.., spoke about Rabbainu; they received from him, they asked several things and he answered them with such a kind of wisdom, that they nullified themselves before him The point is: afterward, afterward they esteemed him These three fellows, they esteemed Rebbe Yisroel . They had, they had, they had a request of Rebbe Yisroel, that he lend them something, books fr.. from Breslov books, yes {Yes..}… ...[Now you will tell how you became a Breslover] Ah.. no, no [You do not have strength?] {…}… ...{….}.. and.. and I spoke with him about Rabbainu [With whom did you speak about Rabbainu?] With Shmuel Horowitz [The father.., Amram’s father?] About Rebbe Yisroel.. [Rebbe Shmuel Horowitz, Amram’s father?] {..}, Amram’s grandfather [Amram’s grandfather?] Yes [Nu] Nu, he was a Chabadnik, {..} [He was a Chabadnik? The grandfather was a Chabadnik?] Yes, his father.. yes, Chabad, {..}, Lubavitch, by them there was such a Lubavitch.. {yes} afterward he became, became a Breslover, I told him about Rabbainu, and.. he left Chabad and.. and.. and.. {….}, reached Rabbainu {…}, yes

Nu, there is much, one cannot speak, there is, there is much [You do not want to speak..] {…}… ...{There was} such, such a Rebbe Yisroel, such.. such service that one does not see In the whole world one does not see.., I was among God-fearing Jews, what {…..}, what there was.. The honor, th.. th.. their name was such, they were angels, angels A.. actual angels, not only an angel Nu, I threw away everything, all, all {..} I saw the service of Rabbainu, I saw the true truth Nu, and.. this is not, this is not.., I.., one sees such a R.. Reb Hirsh was stronger than I He knew “Reishis Chochmah” by heart, he was th.., a Torah scholar, and I a simple man, a child, a simple child Nu, and he could not {(oys tayl) hold on} And.. I was, and I was, and.. and I had.. I won all the wars And I was strong, “whatever will be,” whatever will be…