...[People forget that] [I always say that] [And today, in this last generation, this generation of permissiveness, the whole world focuses on one thing money, and money, and money, and money—that is all the world cries out about today, and they forget that one takes nothing I went to a funeral in Holon two days ago; I was completely horrified. They were afraid to identify the body so they told me, do me a favor, go identify the body. I went in there to identify the body I saw fifty bodies, so it was …... like on a conveyor belt, and people forget what, what is a human being? Nothing] [… I do not even want to see] I saw Natan; Natan needed to eat, he did not eat [Who is Natan?] [Natan ...] Natan, Natan [Ah] [He does not know him] So I saw that it was harming him very much [From Tel Aviv? No?] So I wanted to, and to save him, I said to him [From Givatayim] [I do not know him, I did not see him] […………………..] A yeshiva and dormitory opened in Chadera—eating and drinking and sleeping So they came to me and said to me, I have two sons [Yes] that they would take in the sons and they would sleep at their place (I do not understand) Nu, so I paid no attention to it; I wanted in Yerushalayim, not in.. with Litvaks In short, they, they went away from me, and I saw that he was in danger, Natan, he.. yes So I said to him: "Natan, perhaps you will stay in the yeshiva, in the yeshiva" But I did not have money for expenses, to pay for the bus Nu, what, what does one do? There is no such thing; without money one does not, does not travel, so.. yes So they told me to go, I {….} with Natan, to travel So they told me, go to the manager of Egged and tell him, say to him [that he should give you a free pass]

Yes, that he should give me a pass for free So I did it and succeeded, and he gave me a pass for free And I came, and Natan heard and saw such a thing, yes He—I asked for a free pass, so he broke down, {….} like that He came to the yeshiva with such a broken heart. What is this? Where does one see such a thing? […...] [I tell you, if his children did not turn out crazy, it is only a miracle] [No, I will tell you what the point is] [Look at things, here, see what things] [So fine, but the point—I will tell you what the point is He once told me that he went with Rebbe Yisroel (Kardonner) to someone and the someone was.., did not want to give them ..., did not want to give them so he shouted to Rebbe Yisroel: What, he is stingy, he is stingy, why did he not give" So Rebbe Yisroel said to him: "If it is not with him, then it is with someone else; our abundance is found with someone who needs to give us" That is the method, no? As if this is a shame, as if this is a method, a way in life] Oy vey.. [If that one will not give, then that one will give] Oy.. [My abundance is with someone; I do not know] [I see Hashem, so Hashem.., the world exists because of those few who are truly righteous, who serve Hashem; in the merit of the tzaddikim the world lives, so the abundance is with other people. They do not know it. If they knew what the virtue of charity is, they would all day..] Ah.. [..just feed him and take care of him, but because the world is so far from serving Hashem so they do not know that this is the service of a Jew who does not serve Hashem all day that if he works for himself (I do not understand), once Jews had a concept of what charity is

Today they give a shekel: give me a blessing; five shekels: give me a blessing] Ah, ah, ah.. [..the main thing is, give me the blessing; it does not matter, I will buy you for a shekel, just give me a blessing They pay the doctor for this medicine that is worth nothing; the doctor is worth nothing and they bring the two hundred, two hundred and fifty sh..] [He even makes a mistake on you, persuades you to hurry and leave the world] [A psychiatrist? Without three hundred shekels he does not get out of you for some letter he needs to send for someone or something, three hundred shekels] [………...] [Miriam, someone told me that the ant, the ant lives for half a year, and all that half-year it eats a grain and a half, and all that half-year it gathers—imagine how many grains it gathers and it, all in all, can eat a grain and a half the whole year, and that is enough for it; that is a lot of food] {…} [...] [And for half a year it gathers how many grains—for what, all the grains?] [Saba told me about someone from Teveria, about someone from Teveria whom they called Shmuel, Shmuel the locksmith who built Kiryat Shmuel, I do not know, was he called Shmuel? Is that the one who took Rebbe Yisroel every Saturday night to drink tea?] Eh? Leizer Shmil [Leizer] Leizer [So he told me, every Shabbos he took the.., Saturday night..] {..} [to drink.., Rebbe Yisroel to drink a cup of tea from the hot water—not a new cup of tea, what remained from Shabbos. That was his enjoyment and he did not merit to give him charity, so in the end he did not remain, his sons did not remain and as for his building, I do not know who..] Oy [took him.. {….} The main thing is, he gave a cup of tea, so that is it. That is the world—who remains? None remained..

As Saba says to me, nothing remained of him—not of his sons, not of anyone everything died; there is nothing to do with it] [And some say that it is good to tell the with joy, it is good to tell it with joy] [Yes, after it has passed] [It is all joy, everything that passes..] [After it has passed] [..joy] [After it has passed..] [It is not, it is not so simple..] [Rabbainu, Rabbainu says..] [And this..] She came from abroad [I hear it, you know, and I see the picture; I repeat myself like this] Here in the Land.. [Fine, I am not complaining, baruch Hashem, for this] [It is something one can laugh about, about the whole past about everything a person goes through, afterward he can laugh; there is Saba, and he can laugh about it] [Yes, but we had situations..] [It will be all right] [My sister was—this Tzipora was more in the World to Come than in this world] [Yes, Saba told me, yes] [With the lungs, with pus—look, she has on her back, she has two such holes to this day two such holes that they made for her in order to drain the pus from her lungs, and she stayed alive today they would not believe that a person remains alive from such a thing, I am telling you..] Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo [I am not lying, here, I lived it from the day I remember myself; there were miracles] [Come, let me tell you, this whole generation..] [I, come, let me tell you something, a story I had: pus would always come down from one ear of mine for years, pus—what, what came down? Pus? I was a little girl; I would take Sarah, Chava we would go to the Kinneret. Where did we bathe? We bathed in the Kinneret

I took them, they would bathe, apparently we did not know how to be careful, and water got into our ear It did not harm Sarah because she was little, perhaps we did not put her in deep, but we did And Chava and I got an ear infection and lived for years.. Do you remember that, Abba? Pus drained from my ear and Chava’s ear?] Oy, oy, oy, oy [For years] [He remembers everything, what] [My mother, when we grew a little, left the house, worked in a hospital, at the Diskin Orphanage, cooked] […………….] [She cooked food, and I was facing an operation And I did not want the operation, and my father certainly did not want the operation] [...] [And she said, she said this to my mother.. Masouda was the name of that old woman: “Ya Esther, do not operate on her, she will have a son, the first, and it will go away for her” And I was six, seven, eight, nine, ten, I do not remember I lived with it, and when I gave birth to my Tami, I gave birth to {...} a son, and I gave birth to Tami And the doctors before the birth, it was apparently, you know, from the birth and all that, a lot of pus drained from me; I asked them to clean my ear, because I felt it running out of me, they came and cleaned it for me, they called a doctor {} this was after a birth, during a birth they do not talk about it After the birth they bring me the doctor, and he comes over to me, looks in the ear, and it is dry And it was not, was not “... What did you do?” I said to him: “Doctor, I am in a hospital, what did you do? Why are you asking me what I did?” And I told him the story, that I was a little girl and I was with a woman with my mother And she said that I would have a first son and it would go away, and it went away My sister Chava, poor thing, in January, on January 29, is undergoing an operation

So I, from faith, I lived with the faith And she told me that after a birth it would disappear, and from faith it disappeared for me I believe in the day that I believed in it] [I, I had the very same thing like yours, I went around with it for several years until…] [……..] [And it was always running from me, and a miracle, after I got married suddenly it was like, it disappeared...] [No, but I believe in it, in the faith that they told me that it, I would give birth and it would go away, and it went away] [..I suffered from it a great deal] [Chava, here, Chava my sister is already fifty-something, poor thing, and now she is going to undergo an operation] […….] […………..] […………..] [… After all, his son learned in the yeshiva] [...] [And now he is coming to Teveria..]… ...{…} live, and the husband, twenty years and we had fifteen children We would, we would have divorced a husband like that, who does not provide a livelihood and has no pity for the sons What is this? Everyone wondered how, how, how she continues living a life like that [My mother was something, something out of the legends, there is no such thing, it was not born And this was born for him, this was born for him] [Yes, …] Because another woman would not have lived, who would have lived like that? You tell me, here, you hear things, this..] [Come, let me tell you] [A comma, that is nothing] [At age thirteen they asked him: “What will be, you have no livelihood, who will want to marry you?” So he said: “I will live on bread and water, and I will get a wife who loves bread and water” His parents asked him: “What is this, you are not going to learn a trade?” “No, I will live on bread and water, and I will get a wife who will be with bread and water” And he prayed for this]

I said: “I {can\will eat} bread with water” So he said to me: “And what will your wife say? Your wife also (I do not understand)” I said to him: “Yes, Hashem will give me such a woman, who will also eat bread and water” [Yes, he told me that from age thirteen, even before Rabbainu, he went to the fields He told me, even before I knew what Breslov was, I would go to the fields He cried there and prayed, Hashem helped him] Oy [And it was not for nothing, that he had to live a life like that] [Certainly not, you also do not have to, you also do not have to] [No, they put him to a test, because of the test of the desert, where he was saved by such a miracle That he vowed the vow that has no annulment, that he would not live more than once The matter of the desert, if it is familiar to you, then it was reasons from Heaven that compelled him..] [And when he broke..] [That they showed him something like that, that he was compelled to do it] [And when he tried to break the oath….] [When he tried to break the oath, blows] [Blows] [When he tried to break the oath, they stepped on his foot] […….] [He tried to break the oath at the yeshiva, that he wrote letters, so they sent him a dog with rabies every time he wanted to break the oath, “I cannot hold out"..] [In the bakery in Teveria, three years of crying, only crying, crying, crying all the time, there was ….… Crying, he cried, there was no joy at all] [That is to say, because he had..] [But he did not do anything, my mother did everything…] [But he cried, cried] [But he did nothing, he slept above the oven, up above he slept I will tell you what he did, my mother]

[All right] [Here, he is listening] [But he told me several times] [Do you know how old I was? Four years old, five years old, and I remember it That I would wake him up: “Abba, the days have elapsed, the days have passed" And he would sleep upstairs, because all night he learned, Chatzos and p.. p.. p.. p.. When he came to work he went to sleep upstairs for a few hours..] [Until there came to him..] [And all the dough spoiled, and everything went..] [Until someone from Uman came to him..] [Right, Abba?] [….] {…} [No, but this, this is how it was brought about, what, a Petek about the Redemption is not a joke, do I know? It is “I derived very great pleasure from your service” what is “I derived very great pleasure..”] [Who came from Uman?] [What is “I derived very great pleasure from your service”? That you held out in a life of suffering with your whole family and withstood the trials And for this we will see the payment, the payment will be both here and there] [Saba, did Hirsch Leib come from Uman to tell you to leave the bakery?] [Yes, Hirsch Leib] [Hirsch Leib] [Someone came from Uman: “What is this? Your whole life, were you born to be in a bakery? Is this why you came into the world? Hop, he closed the bakery He went to Yerushalayim to work in a bakery; the wagon went over his foot”] […...] [What, his whole leg is black from this..] [Ah, that is from the wagon?] [Perhaps from the desert] [No, both from the desert and from the..] [Both from the wagon and.., all together] [..That is from the desert, that is a story that he needs to tell you..] [I recorded it, I know it by heart] [You recorded it?] [Once I recorded it, I do not know where it is now, but I know it by heart] [….] [This I know by heart]

[This is a story that I, to this day, several times that I heard it and he tells it and I..] [It does not enter the mi] [….] [..when he was with me now, the last time..] [He told it to me several times] [Four days, he told it..] [….] [The Tales, several stories that I asked for he told them to me anew in Yiddish, the way I like and then I really regretted that I did not have it, word for word you know, as though you were opening The Tales and reading, word for word] [His whole life is tales, Saba’s whole life is tales of tzaddikim] {..} [You know that I started working] [Working is good] [Yes] [What, what about Gideon? Did he get the position?] [Gideon has not yet gotten a position; now he is in Yerushalayim] [He was sick, he did not..]… ...{..} in the evening then, then I had no money to buy challah and I need to go to the mikveh and there is no money to buy challah, so someone gave me some.. Halperin, Rav Halperin gave me fifteen agorot, for challah [When?] Eh? [When?] When? [When? (does not understand), forty years ago, fifty years ago, sixty years ago?] Eh.. [….] Thirty years ago [Thirty years] Forty years, when we lived in Beis Yisroel at the Yemenite’s [Then it is already more, Abba, it is already about..] More [Forty-five years] [Listen to a story in minute detail] Nu, I went quickly to the mikveh and immersed and dressed and went to buy challah and baruch Hashem there was challah in the shop and I, he gives me challah for fifteen grush and I put my hand in my pocket to take out the fifteen grush and they are not there

I hung the garment on a nail, on the.. [Nail] [In the mikveh] Someone had taken out the fifteen grush; I did not find the fifteen grush Nu, now it is close to Shabbos, the candles need to be lit, and how, how will I have challah for Shabbos? And what will I have, what, what, what am I to do now? What to do? So I decided: "Whatever will be will be, I will go to Rav Halperin and I will tell him like this" [Give another fifteen grush] He can say that I am an expert {{………….}} {...} like that, an expert like that Nu, eh.. yes, (does not understand) So I said: "Whatever will be will be, let him think what he will think, whatever will be will be, I will go to him and tell him" But he understood from the words [That it was from the heart] (does not understand), he felt that it was true So immediately he took out fifteen grush and gave me, and I went to buy (does not understand) And there was also an incident with Rav Moshe Rosenthal, Rav Moshe Rosenthal He was a yeshiva student and was not, was not rich And then, some years ago, it was, every perutah was accounted for, yes And I was in the synagogue and with Moshe Rosenthal, and I said to him: "That I need bread for the children and I have nothing with which to buy" [In Teveria?] Yeah, {the song\rich}, Rav Moshe Rosenthal Nu, he had half a shilling, two and a half grush So he took out this money, the half shilling, and gave it to me for bread Good, I put it in my pocket and I go to buy bread joyfully, to bring bread home I go to Esther Malka [That was in Meah Shearim] Yes, and I told him two loaves, a quarter, half, for half a shilling I had two loaves, two loaves, two kilos, two good loaves, she gave them to me immediately, but I put my hand in my pocket and there is nothing, the half shilling vanished

["The thousand dollars" vanished, yes, nu] Vanished, to this day, vanished Nu, I had no bread; I cannot take bread without money [It is not like today, when they give on credit; once, if there was—if you paid, you received; if not, you did not receive] There was not, there was no hole at all in the pocket, intact, an intact pocket And I put it inside the pocket and it vanished, it is not there to this day I took the bread joyfully, "I will immediately, I will go with two loaves {new}” And I want to pay, and search, search—nothing, nothing, nothing.. {..} Nu, I cannot say that she should give me without, bread She knew my situation, that I have nothing, {gornisht gedarft} (need nothing) [……….] So I returned to the synagogue and said to Rav Moshe Rosenthal: "You gave me half a shilling for bread, intact, and I, and I bought bread and there is nothing.. and they vanished" So he was in great distress, because he also had nothing; he did an act of mesirus nefesh—he gave me half a shilling Nu, so he said to me: "If I had more money I would give you, but I have none, I have none, what can be done? {…}” [In this matter I am one hundred million percent certain ………………] [……………………………………….] [……………………………………….] Did you know Shmuel Mordechai? Shmuel Mordechai [No, I heard..] {..}, no? [Maybe I do not remember, Abba] He was a merchant, he was a {manufaktor} merchant [Yes] From Poland [Yes] Yes, he was involved in charities; he would collect charity [.…] So, so I said to him then, then in the evening, night fell, going and I have no bread for the children, what to do? So I met, so I would walk near the shtiblach, near his shop "Shmuel Mordechai, give me to buy bread for the children”

So he, so he: "What, what is this, this, what does he want from me, bread for the children—I, am I rich?" In any case he said to me: "Good, good, good, good" He walks with me and I think he is going to his shop, yes Up above there were several shops; he went and spoke with them about commerce, about.. And I stand and wait, and he does not come In any case, finally, finally, he came out of all the shops and went to his shop.. [Give me bread] Near the shtiblach [Yes] Yes, nu, I walk with him, and by nature, I do not like excuses, and.. and.. yes So he.. I walk with him, and he said to his wife in a voice, in a voice of great noise: He said to his wife: "Yisroel Ber needs bread for the children; give him some charity" [Once he was in Tzfas, there was rain and cold, and he went..] {..} [The child, a small child, cried from hunger; I do not know whom they are talking about, because he died] [Who died?] [The firstborn] [What?] [The firstborn died of hunger] [There was a child who died when he was little, so he said that he went in the rain, in the winds, and over pits, over stones I do not know how he reached some rich man’s house, and he had a cup of tea and milk That man saw the face of a dead man; he looked at him, he saw the face of a dead man] Ay.. ["Give him a piece of challah, just so that he does not die on us here, and we will have to pay the expenses of his burial"; so he said that he returned with the piece of challah, and in the meantime the child died; these are stories of..] [So that was in 1914, that was in the First War; this was the first son born to them and my mother was also, you know, on the verge of death..] Oy vey [……] [Yes, he told me]

[…..] [There was some illness that..] [Typhus, typhus] [When Rebbe Yisroel (Kardonner) was alive, then Rebbe Yisroel (Kardonner) was alive] [Yes, after his wedding] [Then he ran to him, then Rebbe Yisroel (Kardonner), then he asked him to pray and he told him, do not worry, it will be all right] {….} [Rare] [She was already, do you know where?] [Rare, rare, everyone died, because she was in an isolation room] [She was.., no! They had already transferred her to the room of the dead because they did not want to keep her […. this is a case that..][And he came, and he came and he saw that..][……………….…….][……………………..]My children were always born while I was, I traveled to Meron, I was in Meron and they were born[…. this is a case that..][And he came, and he came and he saw that..][……………….…….][……………………..]My children were always born while I was, I traveled to Meron, I was in Meron and they were bornit is contagious, and they would become ill and she was in the room with the dead] […. this is a case that..] [And he came, and he came and he saw that..] [……………….…….] [……………………..] My children were always born while I was, I traveled to Meron, I was in Meron and they were born […. this is a case that..] [And he came, and he came and he saw that..] [……………….…….] [……………………..] My children were always born while I was, I traveled to Meron, I was in Meron and they were born And I came to Teveria, then they told me: "Mazel tov, mazel tov, you have a daughter, you have a son" [And in Meron too, more than once, they told him, why are you not traveling home? Your wife gave birth! He was in Meron and people came to Meron and saw him, they say:

"Yisroel Ber, mazel tov" He says: "What is this mazel tov?” "A daughter, a son, was born to you" He did not know I heard this from him; these are stories that I heard from him And his journeys on the donkeys and all of this you have surely also heard] You were born in 5688 [Correct] And Yitzchak.. [And he registered me in 5689, he made such confusion for me, he did that to me He has a letter in which he received mazel tov; who wrote you the mazel tov when I was born? Father Eh? Ah, Reb Shlomo Kovner, yes [He kept this letter; I do not know if he still has it, years] [That same Reb Shlomo Kovner, he was in Meron with him, and he took a letter and put it..] He was a great scribe [How much, fifty?] A great sage, a great scribe [How much money did he send to Reb Ehrlich?] Eh? [How much money?] Two and a half liras [Two and a half liras] Yes [And sent it..] Then that was a great fortune To the head, the chief rabbi of Toldos Aharon, what was his name?] The Rebbe? The Admor? [Yes] "The chief rabbi," Admor! [Admor, what was his name?] Yes, he sent, he said, he sent him a letter and he did not want him to know that he was sending the money So he, he wrote, he was a scribe, a sage, he wrote: "The hidden one.. [….] gave me two and a half liras for you” He saw a letter like this: "the hidden one," so he can acquire many Chassidim [Yes] So he left the letter open on the table and he went to some place, and went And his Chassidim, they saw an open letter, they could read it, so they read: "That the hidden one, that the hidden one sent him two and a half liras" Then there was an uproar, an uproar in Yerushalayim:

"That Reb Ahar'le has a hidden one in Tzfas and that he sends him money [And this story circulated everywhere, then Saba said to this Reb Kovner, who was old (inaudible)] [Yes] [See what you did; you made him famous] [Yes] [You became famous throughout the whole world, then he understood that only Rabbainu, this is what convinced him that only.. This is how Saba drew him close, because Saba constantly uses stratagems: how do I draw him close?] [If you did not see the one whom he drew close, the.. what was his name Is he from Bnei Brak? The one you drew close in Meron, who went with trousers..? Efrati, Efrati] [The Dutch tourist?] [Efrati] [Efrati] Efrati, Efrati [Efrati] M.. [Came to him..] [Ah, he..] [Saw that he was praying..] [He already passed away, no?] Yes, Efrati [….. he passed away? Father] He passed away […., came in short trousers, with a hat, you know..] [He told me, yes] [With short sleeves..] [In Meron..] […. and he became attached to him, he would come to our house, what is this, he would sit in our home He came was from Meron, took all the utensils from the house, broke them, made a wreck of the entire kitchen] [...] [The Efrati] [Secular] [Only kosher, he wants kosher, so fine, but..] [….] [But it is a shame, no, he does not want to listen, threw everything outside] [In his home?] [In his home and brought in, this was once, I remained with Father …. .. I knew him for years, I knew him] [He met him in Meron] [Where was he from in the country?] [From Tel Aviv?] [Not Tel Aviv; it seems to me that he lived in Bnei Brak, Father, right?] Eh? [He lived in Bnei Brak] No, in the place that.. Nattan

[Givatayim] Eh? [Givatayim] Givatayim [In Givatayim] [He came to Meron secular, and he saw him there] [Yes] […… with an Egged tour, I know what] [Yes] {….} [An organized tour, he came with an organized tour] […. of thirty-five years] [He made complete teshuvah] [What is complete teshuvah] [Breslov to the end] [But from the moment he entered the home, there were no utensils in his kitchen "Kosher,” he does not know, "start, to learn,” he also does not know Neither of them knew what kosher was; they went to learn and it was kosher] [From his children, surely] A group of Mapainiks came, Mapainiks, (inaudible) [……] Fine, they entered [………] (inaudible) [….] They all entered [He told me that..] Yes [He would kiss him] And one of them was this.. [.. the chair in the President's Residence, seats him] [On his chair?] [Yes] [The President's] [When no one is there] [Correct] ["You are the president,” and kisses him and embraces him..] [Do you know what he told us? What he.. when he saw one of us..] Eh.. [He would so efface himself before us {…….…} "What is this, the children of Rebbe Yisroel Ber" "Why don't you ask for something," he would say: "Why don't you ask for something for your children?” Only for this in prison, that they took him out, and this, he has no money...] [I told him..] [And this.. "Do you have? I was in your home, I saw" We had no furniture, furniture; did we ever have furniture? If there was furniture, when the children began to work, when they were already older, then only then was there furniture. I slept on a bed, do you think? That I was.., today they talk, they sleep years in a bed; we lay ten children on the floor, they still did not see that..]

[I came..] [And did we come to talk? Or do I know that something is due me from this country?] [I came to him with complaints: “Why didn't you perform a meritorious deed with him? You would already have finished the whole matter with him; you had a president in your hands.” He says: “The time had not come”]… …[..something from this country?] [I came to him with complaints: “Why didn't you perform a meritorious deed with him? You would already have finished the whole matter with him; you had a president in your hands.” He says: “The time had not come”] Ah [..] But it was—all these things, I am afraid that they will regard me as an Admor, as the leader of the generation, as an Admor [..] Yes, yes, it isn't, it was all.. [Who will regard you as the leader of the generation?] {..} [Who? Who will regard him as one?] [Father, I, I] Yeah [Because of that] Yeah [Everything that I went through, I am not like that, believe me, Father, I am not like that I nullify myself one in sixty, that is true] But.. [But in my heart] But Yitzchak.. [I have no anger] {..} [Everything was sweet and good] Yitzchak suffers.. [I see it differently..] {…} a headache [I see it completely differently from my brothers and my sisters] The pain, the pain.. [Because I am healthy in my soul, perhaps that is why] Yitzchak suffers all his days from a headache from hunger, yes [Yes, so what..] [He told me that he bears resentment..] He is angry with me [He says explicitly, look, this is how he has been for ….. years already] He is angry.. [.. years …… angry with him, angry with him, angry with him..] [He, he feels the anger, he feels..] [He knows and sees what each one is going through and he does not speak; he sees exactly] [After Pinchas …… in America, he told me ………..]

Ah.. [……….] [He sees everything, he knows exactly where..] [Do you know what happened in court? Pinchas was in court; he was with a group, the group stole, he did not But he was with those friends who stole, so they arrested him too] [Where? Where?] [It was in Tel Aviv; he was a little boy, perhaps thirteen, fourteen, fifteen years old I do not know how old he was I am older than he is; I come to the courthouse to listen—after all, he is my brother When the policemen came to say that they had arrested him, we said to him, “Then let him sit if he stole” I—my mother was stunned—“If he stole, it is good that he should sit” Fine, I was already working then; I know what—I come to court, I hear that they are talking about thieves and this, and the policeman says: “He has a sister here” I raise, I get up, Miriam, and I say: “Pinchas, did you steal?” This is beyond the policeman.., the judge and the entire court: “Pinchas, did you steal?” He says: “I did not steal, but I do not know who stole” I say to the judge: “If he is telling the truth, then you know what must be done If he stole, make him sit so that he will learn; in our home we do not steal”] [So he released him immediately?] [That is not important, the story; the story is that the policeman—he asked the policeman to bring me into his room, the judge, judge; he says: “Tell me, who are you?” I tell him: “I am the daughter of Yisroel Ber Odesser; to me, Yisroel Ber is a name of consequence,” I told him He says: “Who is Yisroel Ber Odesser?” So I told him: “Yisroel Ber Odesser is a Breslover Chassid who all the days of his life did not work and did not steal” “Then what did he do?” I said: “A Torah scholar sat and learned, and that is his ‘yes,’ and I am his daughter; so now you judge

What can I tell you? If he stole, according to Torah law it is forbidden to steal; if he stole he has to pay for it Am I right?” He says: To me, yes, you are right, dear; fine, tell me what to do with your brother His friends are not good; your brother did not steal, but the poor fellow wants to cover for them because they are his friends, and apparently at home he has nothing at all, and whatever he has, he has from the friends So he wants to go together with them to prison too, so he stole, and he did” “I know,” he says, “who stole and who did not steal” “But that a sister should speak this way,” he says “Yes,” I said, “that is how they taught me at home: you stole, pay; in our home we do not steal” He says: “Then I will stake my head: your brother did not steal”] {...} “And he does not want to say that he did not steal” He says: “I was with them”; the whole time he maintained: “I was with them” And in the end, do you think he sat? Thanks to him they all went home; they did not make any one of them sit, and none of them returned anymore] [Meaning, did not steal again] [Did not steal again] [….] [He wanted, he wanted to meet with Father, but it did not work out] [The one who sustained this country was Rabbainu with his student All these years, the one who sustained the State of Israel was Rabbainu with his student That is who sustained this country; that was the merit by which this country existed The Six-Day War, Yom Kippur, everything] [The ones who disappointed me were specifically good friends of his, you should know; if I came out the way I ……] […….] How is Yitzchak? [Baruch Hashem, better] Better [Yes] [Shazar already told him; he told me explicitly that Shazar told him..]

[I, I am one of those who..] [Miriam, Shazar told him: “Bring me all your Breslover Chassidim, bring them to me, I want to see”] He has a heart, a heart [So..] {...} toward me more than all the children [So Shazar, he brought to Shazar..] [Pinchas? Pinchas?] He more, yes [He brought Shazar all the Breslover Chassidim he had; Shazar told him “Throw all these into the trash, none of them is worth a grosh; only you are the sole one who exists in the world,” that is the situation And Shazar tested them, sat with them for hours] [He was always angry ...] [With everyone] [He was always angry with him] [That..?] [When I would say …..] I want to tell you [Yes] that you should fulfill the mitzvah of honoring your father [Yes] and that you should not smoke anymore all the days of your life, that's it {…} [Father, you said something major] Yes, like that, like that, like that is what I want [“You killed me" ….] It is a kindness, for your own good [“You killed me", I have to "sit a cigarette" …] That's how [..] Well, we will see, but.. [With Hashem's help, be healthy, goodbye, all the best] […….] Did you see what that is? What is that? She, she will no longer smoke [That's it, pray for her..] It is only for you [……………] [……………] Oy.. [The less one speaks, less is the best ...] […….] [….…] [It is possible, possible …..] [It is impossible; one does not need to tell her and one does not need to show her, and nothing not to speak of anything, and I already told him a million times] [That's it? How much is left? ….] {…}…