...[Saba and the friends sing: “Na Nach Nachma Nachman MayUman...”] [What is your name?] [Tzvi Yosef] [Ah?] [Tzvi Yosef, Tzvi Yosef, Tzvi...] Freinti [What is the family name?] [Freinti] [What?] [Freinti] [Freinti? ...] [From Italy] Ah... [You are from Italy? You are from Milan, perhaps?] [I was born in...] [You are from Milan, Milan, no?] [Tunisia, not in Livorno] [I know someone from Milan...] [Are you originally from Tunis?] [Yes, Moitzi] [From Tunisia] [And my mother too] {…...} [..……..…………………………] {..…} [Levin] […………………….] [Me, me or the family?] [The family] [Livorno] [Which?] [My ancestors are from Livorno, Livorno, Livorno] [Livorno] [Livorno, it was a city...] [Ah, Livorno, yo, Livorno] [………………...] [………………...] (Saba loudly shouts “Oy”) [Where is mem-tes, do you have Moharan, Moharan, do you have...?] [“Likutay Moharan”?] [Yo, mem-tes, there it is about the... about the Petek, the Petek is...] Who? {Is he the paratrooper?} [{…} the paratrooper, ah, this is a young man... [He is a good young fellow, his father is fr... went through the Holocaust] Ah? [His father...] Nu [He is from Poland, Poland] From Poland? [He went through the Holocaust there] Yes, ah [But he was in Russia] In Russia? [Yo, he traveled, he fled to Russia] Ah, ah [And the mother too...] [No, the mother was born here in the Land] [Ah, a long time?] [No, my mother's parents are also from Poland] [They also went through the Holocaust] [Yes, I think] [He... he... a small matter, how many years? A year in... in Judaism, how long...?]

[Almost, ten months] [Ten months, suddenly, ten months] Nu [Now he knows about Rebbe Nachman, ten months] Nu [He, he...] He was in the Holocaust [He did teshuvah] Yes? [Yes] Fortunate are we, fortunate are we [Fortunate are we, I told him, I told him that Rebbe Nachman was in Haifa] Yes [He is also from Haifa] Yes, yes [……..] [Saba and the friends sing: “Fortunate are we, how good is our portion and how pleasant is our lot...”] [This is the aspect of the song that will be aroused in the future, this speaks about this song] The song [“It is a simple, doubled, tripled, quadrupled song”] “Na Nach Nachma Nachman MayUman” [But what does he say, that these ten types of melody are the aspect of the hei, which is dalet and yud; what is hei, dalet and yud?] Dalet... [Dalet with yud, which is dalet with yud, which is dalet with yud; dalet is the aspect of a simple song] Nu, dalet is four [Yo, no, he says, dalet, th... this is dalet and this is also yud, this dalet is like...] [With yud, hei; the hei, dalet with yud, becomes hei] [What?] [Dalet...] [It becomes hei] [Becomes hei] [For the hei is the aspect of a simple, doubled song...] [Dalet] Dalet, dalet [Saba said, and this is the dalet: simple, doubled, tripled, quadrupled; this is dalet, this is four] [Ah, this is four?] [Yes, and yud is ten] [Oh... this, this is through this {…} dalet This is the aspect of the song that will be aroused in the future, and it is a simple, doubled, tripled, quadrupled song, and they are the ten types of melody] This is “Na Nach Nachma Nachman” [Th... which is dalet with yud] Yes, yes] [Then, then he says...] [“Ha lachma anya, ‘di’...”] [“Ha lachma anya...,” what?] [“Di achalu avhasana,” ‘di’ is dalet with yud, the bread of affliction that the Children of Israel ate in Egypt,

this is the ten types of melody with, ah... simple, doubled, tripled, quadrupled song] [What, what is the bread of affliction that they ate in Egypt?] [It is the simple, doubled, tripled, quadrupled song; this bread of affliction brought them out of Egypt This is the song that will be revealed in the future, the light of the highest gate This is what brought the People of Israel out of Egypt the first time And it was concealed, they did not know what it was; now, in this Petek, this song is revealed Until now it was not, it was not] [Why, why is it called bread of affliction?] [Bread of affliction? Because it was poor from cham..., it was..., it is not the song, it is the cham... This is bread of chametz, meaning that it has richness and taste, and this... Affliction is the bread they ate {….}, they hurried to leave Egypt] [Ah, this time is it also a slow redemption?] [….] [Then it was sudden; this time the redemption also continues over time] [……………………..] [……………………..] How, how, is the father in Haifa? [Yes] And you live in Jerusalem? [Yes] Studying in a yeshivah? [Yes] [He came in to me, so I told him about Rebbe Nachman] Ah? [He came in to me] Yo [So he wanted to know about Rebbe Nachman] Yes? He, he heard of Rebbe Nachman? [A little, a little] [A little] A little [Afterward I told him that you...] Oy, Rebbe Nachman, Rebbe Nachman [Rebbe Yisroel Karduner, so I told him about Rebbe Yisroel Karduner, whom you knew] Yo [He had a large beard, he was tall; was Rebbe Yisroel Karduner tall or was he average?] Average [Average, but thin?] Thin, certainly [He did not eat, he did not eat] He ate bread with tea [Bread with tea, he ate tea, tea with bread] Without sugar

[How, how the tea...] He, he was always healthy, there was no—he did not know of doctors, whether doctors were needed If there are doctors, that did not pertain to him; he, he was always healthy and happy... [The doctors come to him] [He used to dance, he was a dancer, so at weddings he was a dancer] Yes, from bread and tea one cannot become fat [………..] {Yes} [What did he say? ... One cannot become...?] [Fat, fat] [Pshh...] [But he also …….] Do not ask, do not ask questions [He...] I saw a human being from Heaven, from the World to Come, yes He was in this world with eyes and hands and feet, but he was... [From another world] He was in this world, and his neshamah was in the World to Come His heart and... {…}, and the wisdom, the knowledge were, were in Heaven Do you have...? Have you seen the book “Likutay Tefilos”? [Yes] [Saba, Saba] Yo [There is a woman here who came especially; she was here in the neighborhood She lives in the Jewish Quarter; for several days already she has wanted to come And every time she calls, I tell her perhaps another day, perhaps another day] Ah... ah... [I put her off, and she came especially and said, “I must see Saba today, now”] Good, good [So I told her now, now, all right, I can no longer tell her “no”] Yo [Every time I tell her another day] Tell, tell her my matter My matter, I am nothing; the matter is only prayer For each person to pray to Hashem Yisbarach every day, for everything he lacks, everything he needs—to ask for mercy {..} from Hashem Yisbarach, that we merit fear of Heaven and to keep the Torah and mitzvos; and if, God forbid, we fall, then there is, there is Rabbainu Rebbe Nachman, who does not allow us to fall

He does not allow us to fall, so the main thing is our holy Rabbainu Rebbe Nachman; I am nothing, yes And the main thing is to study his books and fulfill what he teaches us And to believe, and to believe in him: what he says is halachah... it is from Heaven This, this, this is all our vitality and our hope And he—Hashem Yisbarach brought him into the world now, in this darkness So that he will transform, so that he will draw the entire world close to Hashem Yisbarach and to the Torah and to faith and to truth, yes This is the main thing, the main thing: to believe in Hashem, and to pray to Hashem And to believe that Hashem Yisbarach created us and He wants us to believe in Him And believe in the Torah and the mitzvos, and be like children with Hashem Yisbarach That is it, that is the purpose, that is life; without this there is no life at all, {yes} Without this, without Torah, without... this, this, this, this is not life; this is a life, the life of a kind of animal. There are animals that walk on four legs, and there are animals that walk on two legs; animals go around the world on two legs, and they speak too [………...…….] [……………….] Oy, one must, with simplicity, speak with the mouth What the eyes see in the book, to speak with the mouth and believe that Hashem Yisbarach hears every prayer—even a good desire that we have. Hashem Yisbarach knows everything and helps, and helps us and wants to help us. Only w... the main thing is that we are far from faith and from truth, and... yes, we are the Jewish people, we received the Torah and we are the people of the Torah, the people of Hashem, yes, and all our vitality is the Torah and mitzvos, this is all the vitality; this is not life… ...{…} [………….….] […………] Our holy Rabbainu says: “What does a... a... Jewish man have to work at in this world? What does he have? What work does he have?

To pray and study and pray; this is our work.” […………..…] [……………..] One must search as one searches for a treasure To search and prepare: how will we merit to live a life of Torah and faith A life of joy, a life {of the essence of man} But without this—this is what we need to yearn for and pray to Hashem for: that we merit to know Hashem Yisbarach, that we merit to believe in Hashem and perform mitz... And to keep the Torah and mitzvos; this is the main thing in life, that is it, {that is life} [……………….] {….}, where, where is Sharon? [Yes, I am here] Ah, give her the Petek, give it, show her the Petek [I gave her, I gave her the letter...] Ah, yo, yo, yo, good, good, good [………………………..] […………………..…...] {The main thing...} […….] The heart, the main thing is the heart, to yearn and say to Hashem: “Have mercy on me {….}, that I merit to know You and serve You truly, with faith,” yes That is it, that is the main thing in life, that is it A life of faith and trust, a life of joy—this can be joy Without this, tomorrow one dies, tomorrow, the day after tomorrow one dies, so what joy is there? What is there? What is there? What do I have from all the desires, from... from everything? [Tomorrow one dies, ah?] [Tomorrow, the day after tomorrow one dies, so if not this, then...] […………….] Perhaps a year, two years, but... {….} [……………….…………] [………………………….] We want to move to the Old City; perhaps you have some apartment in the Old City? [Yes] […..] Sharon? [………….] […….…...] Sharon, {are you} here? [Yes, I, I am speaking with her] Perhaps, perhaps she has an apartment in the Old City... […………..] {…..} [……………………….] [……….] Oh... oh... [Saba and the friends sing:

“Na Nach Nachma Nachman MayUman...”] [………………………….] Oy... [………………………………..] Yo, yo, Sharon? [Yes] Perhaps we need to print again, one thousand, two thousand [The letter?] The letter from Rabbainu Nachman, yes [All right, I will call...] So that we have some to distribute to everyone, to everyone; everyone needs it [Where will he be for Pesach?] [What?] [Where will he be for Pesach?] [There are all sorts of plans...] [If my wife does not come, then we will make Pesach at my house...] Our Rabbainu Rebbe Nachman is our Rebbe, he is our Rebbe and that of all Israel, yes [……..] [….….] “Rosh Bnei Yisroel” [Yo] The initial letters spell Rebbe [The initial letters spell Rebbe …..] “Rosh Bnei Yisroel,” he is the “Rosh Bnei Yisroel,” our master [Rebbe Nachman?] He illuminates the holy Torah within us with such vitality, with such faith as there has never yet been […………………...….] [……………………….] [Saba, Saba] Ah? [She is confused by the fact that Breslov has so many sects; she does not understand how, how...] So many?... [So many groups and disputes; she does not understand what is happening, she wants to know the truth] [I... I love everyone] She loves everyone, but she is searching...] When one wants truth, when one searches for truth, then one merits it One who wants the truth I was born among great opponents, who were scholarly geniuses, tzaddikim renowned throughout the world And I, and I did not, did not {accept}, did not, did not know anything But I searched for truth and... and I found one man, yes, Rebbe Yisroel Karduner And... and the world, the scholars, the Chassidim, yes And I saw, and I saw what Breslov is, yes

And I had—I was such a mighty man that... I left the entire world And I cleaved and bound myself to Rebbe Yisroel of Kardun, yes, that is the world [……………………………………..…...] Miracles, miracles that I am in the world... [……………………………….] […….] What I suffered from the name “Breslov,” But today there are, there are liars, yes [……………………………………………………..] One who wants truth, one who says “Likutay Tefilos,” then he finds the truth […………….]… ...[Even though he does not know] Yes [Even though he does not know...] Yes, yes, yes… ...[………..] And also, if it is difficult to give birth and there is no choice Then the doctors tell the midwife, they, they say that she should say “Na Nach” He says it, he teaches them how to say it Oy, oy... This is the Petek; the Petek is the beginning of the redemption “Na Nach”—we did not know of this, and this secret is not brought, not in the Zohar and not {…..} Only in the Petek; our holy Rabbainu revealed it in the Petek, “Na Nach Nachma...” with vowel points [……………...] For this is a wonder, a great wonder, it is impossible to understand it: how did the Petek enter the book? And how did I open the book, and it was there where I opened it, {yes} This is such a wondrous thing, that it is impossible... th... more than all the wonders It is not only a wonder that happened; the Petek is present, {it is always present} It does not cease, yes “Na Nach” the entire world can sing and say and declare “Na Nach,” There was in America, there was a Black woman, a Black woman, who was a member of the UN, of the UN, because... So she wanted to see her son, her son; she had been deported And her son—she wanted to see him, and it was impossible, there was no possibility

So they told her to say “Na Nach,” so she said... It was in the newspaper in America; she said “Na Nach” He, he, and he comes; tomorrow, the day after tomorrow he comes… ...[But Saba should reveal the secret of this to us] The secret? [We do not understand the secret] The secret {is ……...} It is possible to understand that our holy Rabbainu reveals that... There is in the Zohar and in “Likutay Moharan”: That there is a song that will bring the whole world back to Hashem Yisbarach, to the Torah, through this song So Rabbainu reveals that he is this song “Na Nach Nachma Nachman” is a s..., simple s..., this song is “simple, doubled, tripled, quadrupled” “Na” is simple “Nach” doubled “Nachma” [tripled] tripled “Nachman” quadrupled And it also contains ten letters, “Na Nach Nachma Nachman” These are ten letters, corresponding to the ten types of melody that he revealed are efficacious for rectifying the blemish of the Covenant This is the “Tikkun Haklali,” ten types of melody [The Petek is the beginning of the redemption] {Yes} [The actual beginning of the redemption] Yes, yes, yes We see, we see now that it accomplishes things He, he, he is becoming famous throughout the world, {{}}the gentiles “Rebbe Nachman of Breslov,” the entire world [Ah] Oy... Also what he said two hundred years ago: “My fire will burn until the coming of Mashiach” And he reveals in... in the Petek, what I said... [About you, I said about you] That “My fire will burn until the coming of Mashiach,” this is “I said about you” {Yes}, so it is written in the Petek [About you] [About Saba] He also reveals that he is this song, this “simple, doubled, tripled, quadrupled” song This is I myself, “Nachman MayUman,” MayUman—which Nachman? MayUman!

He is this “simple, doubled, tripled, quadrupled” song [Baruch Hashem, Baruch Hashem] {..} And this piece of paper—what is it? From what, from where did it come? There were, there are several people who ask: “Did it descend from Heaven?” The Petek—what, what color was the thread by which it, it descended...?” “What color?” It has all the colors This is such a wonder; there has never been such a thing He did not—he, he, he had already passed away {{and still ….}} And he speaks with me: “My precious disciple,” yes, yes, {together} with the letter “About you I said,” “I derived great pleasure from your service, and about you I said,” nu, “Be strong and courageous in your service” Ber, who, who, who says this? “Na Nach... Nachman MayUman” This is the melody of “simple, doubled, tripled, quadrupled,” yes In the ten letters of the name “Na Nach,” “Na Nach Nachma Nachman”—these are ten letters Ten letters {...} corresponding to the ten types of melody that he revealed for the rectification of the Covenant “Tikkun Haklali” Ten, ten types of melody, ten chapters of Tehillim Nu, do we need signs greater than this? “And the sign...” [They will say] {..}, “On the seventeenth of Tammuz they will say” [Which, which seventeenth of Tammuz will they say?] Ah […] {…}, do I know? This is how it is written, this is how... [This is how it is written] [In 5750 they will no longer need more signs] On the seventeenth of Tammuz, did not know any..., did not know... [No one] Only I alone knew of this, and I had great anguish; I could, could have died from the magnitude of the anguish, yes. Then he came to me: “My precious disciple” You want—you will die? No, no, you, you are “My precious disciple” “About you I said, ‘My little fire will burn until Mashiach comes’”

You need {…..}, do not be afraid [“To tell you”] “Be strong and courageous in your service” “This obstacle is under your hand” Precisely {through}, through my not fasting—an obstacle, this is a great obstacle Through me the Petek was made; were it not for this, there would have been no Petek [….] “And the sign: on the seventeenth of Tammuz they will say that you are not fasting,” yes Do not think this is merely paper—a sign, he gave me a sign: “the seventeenth of Tammuz” They all thought that I had gone out of my mind, had become insane, and they said: “This is how it is with all, all Breslover Chassidim; in the end he becomes insane” What is this? Suddenly he became insane He became... he was in sadness, and afterward he was in such joy; what is this? This is not a normal thing He, he is so insane, {yes} [...] For which he has no cure {to emerge from this} Then the yeshivah students came into town, and each one told it in his synagogue: “The Breslover became insane” “What, what? How do you know?” “He was in such sadness that it was frightening to look at him And afterward, suddenly, he became, became so joyous And he would dance all, all night he would dance What is this? This, this is not {a thing}... this is not normal,” yes So I acquired the name “insane” And Rav Mottel, Rav Mottel of Slonim, he was... I was his neighbor So, and he loved me very much; even though he was an opponent, {..}, he loved me very much He heard about this, that I had become insane, so he was very worried “Oy, such a calamity—he became insane?” He—so he said he would go see, see what, what, what, what is with—what is this with me So he came and spoke with me He was afraid that perhaps I would hit him, for one who is insane can also hit...

So he came and he spoke with me and asked me a question, “I have a question”: “Everyone says that you became insane, and I had great anguish I see that you are not insane; what is this, what was this sadness and joy? What is it?” I told him the... the story of the seventeenth of Tammuz, and I showed him the Petek He was such an opponent that it was frightening; I do not want to speak of what he, what he said Then he nullified the opposition “If so? Yisroel Ber has a Petek? He has a letter from Rebbe Nachman? I nullify all, all the opposition” Then he... [He nullified all the opposition?] Yes, he became an Admor in Jerusalem [Afterward] Yes, after this; so he said: “I already—whether you want, do not want, whatever you want, do whatever you want; I do not—I have nullified the opposition to Breslov” “What is there?” “He received a letter from Rebbe Nachman!” Then everyone said: “Oh, yes, from a letter one becomes so happy? Then there will be... we will make many letters” {..}, then {...}, then I found notes... letters in all my books, yes, yes They saw that this—that there was no joy and no sadness Oy, oy... Nu, it is the eve of the festival, you need to get home [Saba] Nu [There is just one question to ask, just to ask one question] Ask Rav Mottel [No, it is written in the Petek “to tell you”] Yo [Why is it not written “to say to you”?] “To inform you,” [“To inform you”] “To tell you” [“To tell...”] It is not, “to inform, to inform you” [Yes] “To reveal to you” [Yes, why is it written “to tell you”?] What is “to tell”? [Nu, what is “to tell”?] We are sitting and speaking like this—is this “to tell”? No, “to tell”—“to tell” has the meaning of face to face

We sit and speak, and I, “to tell you” [As though, as though Rabbainu spoke mouth to mouth, mouth to mouth, not... like Moshe Rabbainu, yes] [………….] [………….] [“Face to face He will speak”] [We are not good disciples, one needs to ask] What, what is there? What to tell, what to tell? What to tell? Two things “I derived great pleasure from your service” “And about you I said” These are two things; then “Be strong and courageous in your service” Afterward he... do you know who says this? “Na Nach {Nachma}...” “And the sign...,” so that you will not have {….} this matter {….} “The seventeenth of Tammuz,” do you know what they will say on the seventeenth, seventeenth of Tammuz? “They will say that you do not {..}, that you are not fasting” A sign that only I knew [Then is this a sign of what happened that day, or is it a sign for the future?] Ah? [A sign of what happened that day, or is it a sign for the future?] What is written, I... I do not know how to give interpretations; our holy Rabbainu said: “The stories? Mashiach will make an expl... will give an interpretation of the stories,” Mashiach And this too is also such a wonder Mashiach will say... He will reveal that Rabbainu—that this holy Rabbainu is this song, yes Which will bring the whole world back to Hashem Yisbarach [..Saba, this is written in “Kochvei Or”] Yo [He says: “For he is the one of whom it is said, ‘What was is what will be’”] Yo, “Moshe” [“Moshe,” and Mashiach is Moshe, who merited to grasp...] Yes [And to become united, yes, with the awesome throne, upon which you will sing the pleasant song of the perception of His Godliness upon seventy-two strings] Yo [The Name of seventy-two] “Simple, simple, doubled, tr...” [“Simple, doubled, tripled, quadrupled”] {..}, this is chesed [Yes, this is chesed, which is...] Chesed has the gematria of seventy-two

[Yes, seventy-two, yes, which is the Name Havayah in reverse expansion] Yo, yud, yud-hei, yud-hei... [Yes, which totals seventy-two] Yes [To delight forever all who merit this, to delight forever] [To delight forever] [Forever] [To delight forever] [Forever] [To delight forever] [All who merit this, and therefore, this is what I wanted to say] [Therefore] [And therefore the numerical value of his holy name, “Nachman”] [“Nachman”] [Is like the numerical value of the expanded Havayah in reverse, thus: yud...] Yud... [Yud-hei, yud-hei-vav...] Yo [Yud... yud-hei-vav-hei] [Yud-hei-vav-hei] Nu [With the four kollelim] With the four kollelim [Yo, and this also—“Mah Shehayah Hu Sheyihyeh,” with the four words, is the numerical value of his full name Nun, chet, mem, nun, with the kollel] [Someone said, Saba] Yes [Yes, yes] [Rav Avraham son of Rebbe Nachman said this] [Rav Avraham son of Rebbe Nachman] [Rav Avraham son of Rebbe Nachman said this] [Yes] [He said this about, about the Petek, that “Nachman” is yud, yud-hei, yud-hei-vav, yud-hei-vav-hei] Yo [Someone told me that “Pesach” has the gematria of “Nachman”] Yes [Yes, so on Pesach this, this...] Pesach is peh-sach, it is prayer [Yes] Peh is prayer, it is speech, to speak with Hashem Yisbarach [Chizkiyahu told me this yesterday, that he saw it written in the Zohar: That we go toward the waving of the Omer, “tenufah” is tenu-peh, “tenufah”...] [“Tenufah” is tenu-peh] [Tenu-peh] Tenu-peh, “tenufah” [Yes, give a mouth, to pray that we can ask...] Tenu-peh is prayer, prayer [Yo] [..In Tikkunei Zohar it is written: “The Holy One, blessed is He, is revealed in a note and a seal”] [..] [In Tikkunei Zohar 22 it is written: “The Holy One, blessed is He, is revealed in a note and in a seal] [……..……] […………..]

[So I told Saba some time ago that chotem, we said, we spoke of this That the middle letters of “Nachman” are chet, mem, yes And the middle letter of “Nassan” is tav: “chatam”] “Chatam” [“A seal within a seal”] [The reverse... of the Name] Also the name of Rabbainu begins with nun and ends with nun, “Nachman” And Rebbe “Nassan” also begins with nun and ends with nun, yes [“Yinnon, Yinnon is his name”] “Yinnon is his name” [“Yinnon is his name”] Nun [Nun, yo] [Mashiach, this is Mashiach: “Yinnon is his name”] {..}, this is the fiftieth gate [The fiftieth gate] [Gate fifty] “Na Nach” [Toward this we are going as Shavuos approaches] [The entire Petek is the fiftieth gate, this is...] Yes, yes [Yes, these are the fifty gates of holiness] [This is the counting... this is the counting with which we are going toward Shavuos] Yo [How is it written that for forty-nine days we do teshuvah And on the day of the fiftieth gate, as it were, the Holy One, blessed is He... will do teshuvah] [……………..] [He also says, Rabbainu, Rav Avraham son of Rav Nachman, that “Nachman” is moach nun, moa...] Moach nun, yo Nun is two nuns, so “Nachman” [Yes] Nun [Yes] [………………………………...][“Nachman” is nun][…………………………….][………………………………...][“Nachman” is nun][…………………………….]It is impossible to say, only two {whole ones}, nun [………………………………...] [“Nachman” is nun] […………………………….] [………………………………...] [“Nachman” is nun] […………………………….] [At the beginning it is broken and at the end it is straight; at the beginning the nun is broken...] [At the beginning the nun is broken and at the end it is whole...] [At the end the nun is straight; we are going toward the straight nun] [Saba, remind us of, of the...] “You shall count fifty days”

[Fifty days] “Fifty” Fifty is “Na Nach,” he gave nun…